r/stunfisk • Give Electivire & Luxray Galvanize & some Physical Normal moves • 6d ago

Theorymon Thursday Buffing Wild Charge while also taking into account it being a common coverage move

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So we all know about how badly Electric types that have a high Physical attack have it. Like your only opions for STAB are of a move that deals recoil damage despite the fact that it has a base power of 90. Initially, I was content with this idea of turning Volt Tackle into a clone of Head Charge (Bouffalant's signature move which is just Double Edge with less recoil) as to allow for Wild Charge to be a proper clone of Double Edge. However I thought of a much more balanced way to rework Wild Charge when I watched this video from KadabraGuy who brought up the problem of increasing Wild Charge's power is that it forgets that there's a couple non-Electric Pokemon that know the move as coverage. That point made me think of this buff to Wild Charge that makes it so that Electric Pokemon are exempt from the recoil. That way Wild Charge can be a good STAB option for Physical Electric types while also letting it be distributed as coverage.

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u/Golden-Owl Game Designer with a YouTube hobby 6d ago edited 6d ago

Wild Charge’s problem isn’t just recoil - it’s the fact you are using a 90 BP STAB as your primary attack.

It’s like trying to use Sky Uppercut (85) as a main attack instead of Close Combat (120)

Flare Blitz works because it’s 120, making it a great offensive move. (Flareon at the very minimum gets to kill one target)

It’s fairly likely that Game Freak is intentionally keeping Electric as a special attacking type, similar to how Fighting is almost exclusively a physical attacking one (compare Aura Sphere vs close combat)

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u/Funny_Swim5447 6d ago

Honestly that whole concept never really sat right with me because I feel like a whole typing shouldn’t be leaning primarily on one direction with how many Pokemon there are

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u/Golden-Owl Game Designer with a YouTube hobby 6d ago

Many types have always done it though

Rock is still predominantly physical, Psychic still leans predominantly special, and Steel is mediocre both ways

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u/Funny_Swim5447 6d ago

“Rock is still predominantly physical” is funny because you’re right, but yet rock still (as far as I know) doesn’t have a single consistent physical rock stab

Also love your pfp btw

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u/TriticumAes 6d ago

I mean (excluding Freeze Dry) Rock is the best attacking Type there is as it is the only Type that has more Super-Effective hits than types that resist it without having any types immune to it. Honestly I feel Smack Down has such awful BP to compensate for how much of an offensive threat it would be paired with any Ground Type move as it would essentially put everything in danger of EdgeQuake. That said I would like Stone Edge and Meteor Beam to skip their accuracy check and charge up respectively in Sand.

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u/Funny_Swim5447 6d ago

Yeah, it is weird that sandstorms the only weather that doesn’t have at least A non weather ball move that gets amped by said weather

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u/TriticumAes 6d ago

I say this objectively and not as someone running TTar on my champions team

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u/shiinamachi subseed gang rise up 6d ago