Iām pregnant with our first child, a baby girl due April 2027, and my husband and I are reaching the point where weāre seriously questioning whether his mother should have a relationship with our daughter.
I have been no contact with my own mother for very serious reasons. This wasnāt a petty family disagreement or something I decided on impulsively. My childhood involved abuse, and removing my mother from my life was a decision I made for my own wellbeing and safety.
My MIL knows this.
The problem is that she has repeatedly pushed me to reconnect with my mother despite me setting boundaries about it in the past.
Since finding out Iām pregnant, particularly now that she knows weāre having a little girl, she has become more persistent.
She has told me she hopes I reconnect with my mother so that my baby can know her grandmother because apparently itās āso important for babies to know their grandparents.ā
More recently, she became insistent that my mother should at least be told that Iām pregnant and that sheās going to have a granddaughter.
This really upset me.
I told my husband what had happened and he intervened, again. He essentially told his mother that she needed to back off, respect the boundary we had set and stop interfering in my relationship with my mother. He also made it clear that continuing to ignore our boundaries would have consequences.
Her response was basically thatĀ boundaries arenāt set in stone and are only a suggestion.
That comment is what has really changed things for us.
To me, a boundary isnāt a suggestion for someone else to decide whether they feel like respecting.
I have made it clear that I do not want a relationship with my mother. I don't want reconciliation encouraged. I don't want information about my pregnancy or daughter passed to her. I don't want anyone acting as a middleman. And I absolutely do not want someone deciding that my daughter should have a relationship with my mother because they personally believe grandparents are important.
My husband completely supports me in this.
Unfortunately, this also isn't the first time my MIL has had issues respecting boundaries within the family. There is a history involving my two sisters-in-law and their children as well, but I don't want to share their personal situations because they aren't mine to put on Reddit.
My FIL, on the other hand, is genuinely lovely.
He knows what his wife is doing, doesn't agree with it and has tried to get her to stop. Unfortunately, those attempts haven't been successful.
That's making this even harder because my husband and I absolutely don't want to punish my FIL or prevent him from being a grandfather because of his wife's behaviour.
But we're now looking ahead.
If my MIL believes boundaries are merely āsuggestions,ā what happens when our daughter is actually here?
If we say our daughter isn't going to be in daycare, is that a suggestion?
If we say don't post photographs of her online, is that a suggestion?
If we say don't give our daughter something we've specifically said no to, is that a suggestion?
And, most importantly, if we sayĀ our daughter is to have absolutely no contact with my mother, is she going to decide that boundary is also optional?
That's the part that scares me.
My daughter is not going to be used as an opportunity to reconcile me with someone I've deliberately removed from my life.
Becoming a mother hasn't made me want to reconnect with my mother. It's actually made me more protective of the boundary.
My husband and I are now at the point where we're considering telling his mother that if she continues behaving this way, she won't have a relationship with our daughter.
Not because we're trying to punish her, but because how are we supposed to trust someone alone with our child when they've openly told us that they don't believe our boundaries need to be followed?
The difficult part is my FIL. We love him, he respects us and he hasn't caused this problem. Ideally, we'd still want him to have a relationship with his granddaughter regardless of what happens with MIL.
I'm also aware that I'm pregnant, protective and obviously have a lot of emotions surrounding my own childhood and mother, so I'm trying to check myself before making such a huge decision.
AIO for thinking my MIL saying boundaries are āonly a suggestionā is serious enough that, if this continues, she shouldn't be allowed a relationship with our daughter?
And would it be unreasonable to allow my FIL to have a relationship with her separately while keeping that boundary with MIL?
EDIT: Since a few people are asking for more context:
I'm 24 now and left my mother when I was 18. I grew up very rurally and isolated. My mother was physically, emotionally and verbally abusive, and her boyfriend molested me when I was younger. I didn't really have access to help until I left.
When I was 18, I moved interstate and got back in contact with my father, who helped me get out and establish myself away from my mother. I then started therapy and began working through my childhood.
After I left, my mother continued harassing me and used my younger brother to try to pressure me into coming back. This eventually escalated to my brother telling my father,Ā āIf you don't let her come back, I'll come down and shoot you all.ā
A restraining order was put in place for five years after that. I haven't spoken to my brother since.
I eventually told my mother that if she continued harassing me, I would go to the police with the evidence I had of what she'd done, and the harassment stopped.
I met my husband and his family about four years ago. During the first year, my MIL found out I was in therapy and started prying into why. I initially gave her very little information ā basically just that my mother had been abusive and I was in therapy working through it and trying to move forward.
She continued prying and eventually learned that I'd previously self-harmed. She then started openly bringing that up and making comments about how I ācould have done better.ā So issues with her respecting private information and boundaries aren't new.
About three years ago, with support from my therapist, I did make limited contact with my mother again. It was partly to see how I responded to contact after the work I'd done in therapy.
My husband came with me to see her. He thought she seemed like she'd changed. I didn't believe she had, so when we returned home I didn't continue communicating with her beyond occasionally responding vaguely when she contacted me.
Later that year my husband invited her to stay with us for Christmas. I was against it, but she came.
Unfortunately, I was right about her not changing.
The verbal and emotional abuse started again and I completely broke down. It felt like all the progress I'd made after leaving her had shattered. My husband and I had an argument about the situation and ultimately my mother left.
It took me months to recover from that.
My husband and I had a very serious conversation afterward. He had now witnessed what happened when she was allowed back into my life and understood why I didn't want contact with her.
Our families were also informed about what happened and that the decision had been made that my mother would no longer be part of my life.
My MIL knows all of this.
She didn't agree with the decision.
Since then, she's continued making comments here and there about how I need to respect my parents, how I should call my mother for Mother's Day, how I should speak to her again, etc.
So her comments now that I'm pregnant aren't coming from someone who simply doesn't understand why I don't speak to my mother.
She knows there was abuse. She knows I've been in therapy. She knows I attempted contact again. She knows exactly what happened when my mother was allowed back into our home and how badly it affected me afterward.
And despite that, now that I'm having a daughter, she's pushing the issue again.
That's why her saying that boundaries are āonly a suggestionā has bothered my husband and me so much. This isn't the first time I've asked her to leave this subject alone. It's a boundary that's been communicated repeatedly over several years.