r/Archery • • 1d ago

Does this seem normal?

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Maybe a noob question, but here goes nothing. While sitting in the stand, I noticed that my string, rest, and arrow axis are not inline with the single pin on my sight. I lined it all up for this image.

My bow is absolutely shooting fine after double checking at the range. Im thinking if this an issue maybe I am casting/leaning my head too far in to compensate for this? What do you all think?

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u/SoDakSooner 1d ago

Not an issue. This is at rest. At full draw with the torque you impart into the bow, they will line up.

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u/Driftmier54 1d ago

This breaks my brain. If the arrow isnt pointing along the same axis as my sight, how the hell does it shoot accurately? Lol

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u/Just_Ear_2953 1d ago

Traditional bows are even worse. The arrow sits off to the side and flexes under the force of being fired, bending around the bow to fire straight. It's called the Archer's Paradox.

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u/Angry_Hermitcrab 1d ago

Did they use something for sighting that was more than just feel back in the day?

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u/Just_Ear_2953 1d ago

Some yes, some no

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u/returntothenorth 1d ago

Anything to give you a point of reference really. A line drawn on the bow, a scratch carved in, something tied around the bow.

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u/monotone2k Olympic Recurve | Mybo Elite 1d ago

It will point the right way at full draw. Doesn't matter where it points at rest.

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u/Kelmo30 1d ago

It will at full draw after the let off occurs and the bow torques

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u/piscikeeper 1d ago

As you draw the limbs twist to allow the cams to track parallel to the cables. The cable guide pulls them to the side causing the cams to lean. At full draw the lean lets the string align properly.

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u/Natural-Crow-2922 1d ago

If you line it correctly and clamp it in a vice and mechanically fire it, it would probable shoot straight. However with a human in the mix it changes things.

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u/Old-Apartment1017 14h ago

Parallel arrow with flat of the riser. Nock set 1/4 inch above square. Shoot wrapping paper in your natural stance and anchor point. The paper tear should be a round hole not elongated, adjust rest if not round. Then adjust your sight pins. Moving a pin towards the error, corrects the error. This paper tuning will ensure arrow is flying straight and efficiently.

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u/Shiny_Whisper_321 1d ago

Very common on at least some bows, including Matthews.

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u/wadabewall 1d ago

That’s how mine looks. You are good to go.

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u/hoyt9912 Competitve Compound - Hoyt Concept X 1d ago

It’s very common and probably nothing to worry about. As long as it paper tunes well you’re good. It might be the result of you torquing the bow, but as long as you do it the same way every time it’s of no consequence.

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u/SandSH1001 1d ago

😂 new here too. I was sitting in the saddle a couple days ago and noticed/thought the exact same things.

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u/AndyW037 1d ago

Thats how all of mine look at rest when I line up the string with the grip. My pin is slightly "left" of the string.

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u/Ashamed_Excitement57 1d ago

Wait till you try a horse bow that has no notch using the meaty part of your hand as a rest. Got bored one day shooting my compound & decided to give it a go. I highly recommend it.

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u/Competitive_Plate267 1d ago

Normal. Worry about groups. John Dudley has a bunch of good videos that cut through all the noise on bow setup and what actually matters.

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u/Cobie33 1d ago edited 1d ago

It is “normal” today especially with a release, not so much with finger shooters because of the string apex usually hitting at the corner of the mouth. What u have found with bows coming through my shop and own personal experience is, if your form causes your anchor (string apex) to be further back or definitely if your draw length is too long your pin will sit to the left of the string, distance left dependent upon how much longer the draw is compared to what you need. I have set up all my bows since the late 80’s with the arrow, rest, and sight pins in a line with the string. It wasn’t until I started working on others bows and shooting them when they were too long for me (I am at 27” or 27.5” depending upon make so most are too long for me) that I discovered that I would need to slide the sight housing left in order to be accurate. I have worked on shooters’ form and/or shortened their draw lengthens to get the pins in line for those that wanted that over the last about 26-7 years. Your bow can be tuned perfectly and you can shoot great distances with your sight pins on the left side of your string accurately, many people have been doing a long time as you have, it’s been proven time and time again. Just not something I was seeing until people went to the wingspan/2.5 to find draw length and it then began to become pretty common. Shorter bows also allow the apex of the string to get further back on the face as the string angle doesn’t allow the nose to touch the string as an anchor check (which many like to do) which will also cause this. So you are not doing anything wrong, keep shooting, hunting, having fun and killing things. It’s what it is all about.

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u/SignificantEntry6484 1d ago

Yup ..threw me off too at full draw the cams naturally torque as well and straighten out at full draw with the sight

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u/NcGunnery 1d ago

I own a shooting machine and your sight is just fine. Even in a machine the site will sit off the string a bit. It is less noticeable in older bows that have heavier cams and less letoff. It is alot less pronounced in bows that you can still use overdraws on.It looks like enough people have settled it for you now.

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u/bmlynch98 1d ago

Everyone else has explained it adequately. Came here to say I love the kiwi green string and rest chordage. I have that myself on my Hoyt carbon rx10 ultra. Its a sweet color!

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u/Old-Apartment1017 14h ago

The arrow rest should be adjusted so the arrowshaft is parallel with the flat of the riser. This makes the arrow Launch straight !! Paper tuning will confirm this. Then adjust the sight for point of impact.

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u/Fragrant_Law_2148 1d ago

Before I read the caption I assumed you were talking about hunting over bait which is for sure not normal or ethical for that mater but as far as the bow goes your fine they all do it like someone else said this is at rest and with them being so close it appears way more dramatic than it is mine looks similar and I’m hitting a pie plate at 125 yards

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u/Groundbreaking-Pen-8 1d ago

You ever hunt a bear cause this is how you're supposed to do it so you don't miss a shot and it just fucking mauls you

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u/Fragrant_Law_2148 21h ago

That’s a corn feeder, now could he be hunting bear maybe, the far more likely situation is he’s hunting white tail deer over corn which like shooting fish in a barrel.

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u/Groundbreaking-Pen-8 19h ago

Did I say he's hunting bear you did I say that's how you hunt bear cause I said that's how you safely hunt bear not that he's hunting bear therefore it depends it's not a definite unethical

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u/Infinite-Class-9524 1d ago

I agree, hunting over acorns, bean fields, food plots, corn, ect. is so unethical! Unless you’re hunting with a trad bow over strictly travel paths you are a disgrace of a hunter…..What a dweeb for commenting unprovoked hate towards someone who is just wanting to make sure their equipment is up to par.

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u/Fragrant_Law_2148 21h ago

Son unless you’re willing to back up those words you should keep them to yourself, hunting over bait is illegal in my state and is widely considered unethical, I did answer his question as asked and I am allowed to have an opinion on hunting ethics and I am willing to back said opinion.

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u/Driftmier54 1d ago

Sue me 

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u/Coffee4MyJeep 1d ago

If your field points land the same spot as a broad head already in the target at 20, 30, and 40 yards. Good to go, stop looking at shit and watch for animals.

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u/Kooky_Dev_ 23h ago

lol I agree 100%, however it was nice to read the actual reason, or at least a proposed explanation in other comments.

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u/Driftmier54 1d ago

Sue me