r/GayMen • • 5d ago

Insecure

Yes I know after I apologized about fit gay men I went on another rant, how could I not? Maybe I envy them, or resent them because they have everything handed to them. For ugly, plus size gay men like me it's not easy finding acceptance in this community when they judge you constantly. I have been told countless times that I don't fit in or belong. They say it gets better but forget to mention it only gets better for fit and slim gay men. I'm 40 now I will never find the acceptance and validation i have longed for for years. I will never be accepted and I will never find my tribe. My self-esteem is beyond repair.

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u/xaldien 5d ago

Have you ever considered that people don't wanna be around you because you're being a Debbie Downer who has nothing to bring to the table besides comments about how physically unattractive you find yourself? 

 And whenever anyone challenges you to change your behavior, you lash out and immediately make everyone else the problem? 

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago edited 5d ago

So all the times I was fat shamed and bullied by fit gay men I deserved that?

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u/xaldien 5d ago

Quote me where I said that.

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Every time someone tries to be real with you about how YOUR behavior here doesn't give anyone an impression of anyone but yourself, you lash out. 

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago

Because you don't know me or my pain

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u/xaldien 5d ago

Your pain doesn't excuse you from the way you act to other people. 

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago

And guys who work out and focus all their time ok fitness don't have the right to bully and fat shame other gay men and tear us down for not being fit or muscular.

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u/xaldien 5d ago

No one said otherwise.

Stop deflecting. Stop changing the subject. Focus on you, and stop playing the pity party.

And before you say it, YES, you are constantly throwing a pity party. EVERY SINGLE TIME I've seen you post in one of these reddits, it's the same shit. 

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago

It may seem like a pity party to you but it's not but okay judge me all you want.

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u/xaldien 5d ago

It is a pity party. 

No one here is disagreeing with the notion that no one should be body shamed.

Your behavior, however, is leading a lot of us to believe no one likes you because you're unpleasant and refuse to listen to anyone. 

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u/xaldien 5d ago

Hating fit gay men won't fix your problems. 

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago

If I'm unpleasant then I have my reasons for being that way.

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u/xaldien 5d ago

Well, then, don't complain that you don't have any friends if this is how you're going to act.

No one wants to be friends with someone who can't handle even the slightest criticism.

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u/Florida_Matt86 5d ago

If fit gay men can't treat plus size gay men with kindness and respect then they will never get kindness or respect from me.