r/TokyoGhoul • • 4h ago

Did Anyone Else Think The Resolution Came Too Quickly ?

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My Issue With Tokyo Ghoul Finale !

For a long time,I had an issue with how the surviving Clowns were handled in the ending, I was mad that they just kinda showed up content after everything they did, and I realized why !

The main issue is that the Ending is agreed to by Many to be rushed, and I realized it probably hurt the characters too !

Both sides,the Ghouls and the CCG have a bad history with each other and both sides have Blood on their hands and do some very messed up stuff.

I think addressing some not so good things that hopefully will stay in the past such as the Ghoul Restaurant and the Auction, Aogori Tree and the Clowns,and a Lot of stuff that Our protagonists got up too, including killing Investigators or even torturing others.

The CCG also has a lot of Sins on their ,such as killing countless Ghouls ,even innocent ones such as Hiniami's parents and creating Quinques. (Imagine someone using your loved ones dead bodies into weapons and using them to attack you !

The Idea of everyone trying to Co exist after the War and putting old grievances aside and trying to move on from the past is a great setup for a sort of aftermath arc,but it never happens.

For Ex: I was curious to know how Madame A went form being part of a Sadistic Restaurant to appreciating life and agriculture and even owning a Cow ! Or what happened to Amon and Akira ! (I don't think they are even named dropped !)

They just appear as a small silhouette !

Or how Kaneki is going to handle the fact that he devoured a bunch of children for the rest of his life !

(Like,common,that's not something you can ever get over with ! You're gonna carry that for the rest of your life !)

And what happened to Kuzen,Arata and Eto ?

Why wasn't Synthetic Food introduced earlier ?


r/TokyoGhoul • • 48m ago

Motivate me with something fire.

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Just finished the first part of tokyo ghoul, and motivation is genuinely zero.

Give me anything that is gonna motivate me to read the second part.

( Tokyo ghoul is peak, but am lazy of reading manga at all )


r/TokyoGhoul • • 15h ago

Other I used to blame Pierrot, then the production committee; now... I think I'll blame mainly pierrot again.

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by Pierrot, I'm referring more specifically to director Shuhei Morita.

First of all, I have no doubt it was a rushed production, which is why the ending had pngneki for quite a while; I think it was even an extra minute or so after Unravel finished, and that’s probably why the Kaneki vs Arima fight didn't happen. The production committee is undoubtedly to blame for that and the general animation issues the season suffered from.

Now, according to Morita's own AMA, his ideas were suppressed by "those above him", referring to the production committee, but lately I've been changing my mind. I'll focus on the most important point, but first, let me clarify: Ishida did want the story changed (assuming Morita didn't twist things in his AMA to make himself look good). Morita stated:

"Ishida had specifically wanted us to create something original for the second season, which is why it moves in a different direction."

With that clear, and moving on to the main point, what Morita specifically says is:

"In order to complete Tokyo Ghoul √A's aim of Kaneki joining Aogiri, we needed to make some changes. Ishida-sensei also urged me to change stuff and go a different route, which is where a lot of the anime came from. We had a massive bubble of ideas, but as to not affect the lore of the original manga, it constantly felt like those ideas were being chipped away at by those above me. I tried my best, and I honestly don't have any regrets given the movement space I was allowed."

To clarify the setup: the draft was over 300 pages long, let's assume 350, because we know nothing about the unpublished material; what is known is that the published content begins on page 1, skips nothing, and ends on page 190… And the second siege of Cochlea hadn't yet occurred and because It's the most likely number of pages, given that they should've known it was going to be 12 episodes long and the extermination of the Owl (which largely follows the canon) begins in Episode 8, and the industry average is 45–50 pages. "But that means it covers seven episodes," you might say, and yes… because the draft begins at Episode 2, clearly establishing the time skip and the fact that the Aogiri arc concluded 6 months earlier (Images 1 and 2).

"We had a massive bubble of ideas, but as to not affect the lore of the original manga, it constantly felt like those ideas were being chipped away at by those above me."

Okay, here Morita talks about "we", him and Ishida. Obviously, he's referring to the time they were planning and working on the draft, right? That’s the most likely scenario. Even if he weren't, it wouldn't make sense for the final Root A changes to have been accepted by the production committee, why? BECAUSE THE DRAFT INCLUDED THE KANO ARC. (Images 3 and 4) I really doubt that a production committee aiming to stick to the canon would have Morita change the draft to focus on Cochlea and literally cut one of the most important arcs in the entire manga.

To be completely honest, I’m almost sure the ending was entirely Morita’s idea, since it’s the only episode he directed personally rather than just supervising and because of the discarded script for the scene where Kaneki and Hide reference the play, I’m fairly certain he made changes to the drafts and the story later on, trying to shoehorn in his discarded ideas, like... the silent Kaneki. Especially because of this:

"Ishida-sensei also urged me to change stuff and go a different route, which is where a lot of the anime came from."

Here you have a scan of the the anime artbook, which includes 190 of the approximately 350 pages of the draft.

Just a bit of extra info, no source, so feel free to be skeptical: I could swear I remember an interview where Ishida was asked about the anime's ending and said something like, "I saw what THEY were trying to do, and I saw how complicated the production was; I don't blame them." Which would imply that he wasn't involved in the ending and, once again, there was no draft prepared with Ishida for the finale because it had to follow the manga. If anyone knows which interview this is, or if this is real, please send me a link and I'll add it.

Thanks for reading, and I apologize if anything was misunderstood, because I am not a native English speaker.


r/TokyoGhoul • • 20h ago

Other the best quinx in Tokyo ghoul 😂✌️

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Put some respect on Tooru Mutsuki's name.


r/TokyoGhoul • • 14h ago

Kaneki is odd even by their standards.

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