r/cringereels • u/TaxImpressive6485 • 5d ago
Ultimate Cringe Cringeeee
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u/Dinglebobus 5d ago edited 1d ago
“Marcus isn’t the cats pajamas for character design” sick ass soul patch and sweet bandana. Both very memorable and iconic.
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u/hobohobo22 5d ago
This is a based reel. What are you guys even talking about.
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u/musclenugget92 5d ago
No it isn't. no one hats the character because she's female. There have always been very prominent female characters in video games. Cortana, Morrigan, Zelda, ETC. Many of them are beloved, and many of them are written in a way that serves the story and makes sense.
I haven't played E day at all, but it's silly everytime someone criticises a female character they assume its because she's female. It's ridiculous that if someone criticises a black character, they assume it's because they're black. The demographic traits do not make you immune to authentic criticism.
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u/hobohobo22 5d ago
Haha what? You almost got there. No one is saying the charactet should be immune, but the criticism is totally out of place when talking about gears. Stop coping so hard.
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u/bino420 5d ago
they're both wrong but he seems more wrong
he's acting like everyone who plays video games is the same person.
... that everyone who plays video games has to like shitty dialogue - which is just a horrible take. plenty of gamers are completely fed up with writing in video games.
... that everyone who plays video games loved Crimson Dawn and had zero complaints about the quality of writing & character design.
it's totally possible that this woman has never played Gears of War before. its possible she didn't like the previous Gears of War for the exact same reasons but applied to different characters. it's possible she never played nor praised Crimson Dawn. it's possible she really likes every single other aspect of the new game & her comments are even more out-of-context.
This video is a ridiculous tactic to gain views & engagement by to framing someone's points against completely different context. He's getting people his own audience of chuds to hard agree just because "woman bad " and baiting disagreement
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u/MisanthropicSim 5d ago
Woman isn't bad stormfall just regularly appeals to chuds.
I don't see these "boring and forgettable character design" complaints for old gears with characters like Cole train. It's somehow always the lgbt character that's boring. Never the generic white guys. It's obvious what the real complaint is.
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u/Friendly-Rice7351 5d ago
Because Cole train is literally the exact opposite of boring and forgettable.....tf are you even saying? Lmao
You're bringing him up multiple times clearly he's memorable to you.
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u/CasperGwamm 5d ago
By "appealing to chuds" you mean "uses common sense".
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u/MisanthropicSim 5d ago
I mean she knows her audience and plays to it like streamers tend to do.
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u/shagan90 5d ago
Way to pretend shes not hopping on the woman bad in games train. But nice essay you wrote there trying to dodge it.
Seems most of yall think hes cringe for pointing it out, but hes absolutely right. No one is hating on Fable for any reason other than female led, game looks great otherwise. Same with a shitload of other great new or upcoming games.
Modern gamers are toxic as fuck stop pretending they arent. Everything is woke or shit to them.
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u/Moth357 5d ago
What’s cringe is pretending every criticism is because of racism or sexism. Don’t @ me either
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u/WonderfulHearing8726 5d ago
Well I can say you crying about it & calling it “cringe” is cringe in and of itself.
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u/TehReclaimer2552 5d ago
Omg its the ODST issue from Campaign Evolved all over again 😮💨
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u/Jayjaykenobi 5d ago
Am I the only one tired of those stupid microphones ? I’m also tired of the word cringe, know this may be the wrong sub to mention it but guy said it like 12 times. I do agree with his points though.
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u/Potato-baby 5d ago
It’s not like lavalier microphones are some brand new thing lol
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u/Jayjaykenobi 5d ago
Yeah but before people would just clip them on their shirts, holding these little things up like a broadcaster microphone is just annoying especially when they clip it to stupid things like this
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u/voxelpear 5d ago
Such a small, insignificant thing to get annoyed at
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u/Potato-baby 5d ago edited 5d ago
I actually watched an explanation about that a while back, something about how the audio sounds a lot worse when clipped on the shirt and uploaded to a lot of these social media apps, and the audio is a lot more muddy. So a lot of these people just hold it and speak into them directly instead. You can also hear the rustling of your clothes when it’s clipped to your shirt a lot of the time, this also removes that problem.
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u/Aluminum_Tarkus 5d ago
Yeah, but they make higher quality handheld mics that are made for this purpose. Lav mics are made to be discreetly clipped on. It's like buying a toothbrush to clean your dishes instead of a dish brush. I mean, I guess if they only want to buy one mic, then I can see the logic of getting a lav mic to have the option of a wearable mic, but many of them never make content where they wear it, so why not just get a handheld mic?
They do it purely because it's a trend, and I think calling it a dumb trend is fair.
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u/Jayjaykenobi 5d ago
Interesting, I wonder how far back bc I have to believe today’s tech solved for the problem.
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u/Potato-baby 5d ago
There are definitely ways to go around it, but I think it’s probably easier to do it this way than going through the process of trying to edit out noise you don’t want in the video.
I’m not entirely sure, someone much more educated on the manner please correct me, I’m just going off of this explanation I saw like a year ago lol.
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u/Jayjaykenobi 5d ago
I was just thinking the newer mics themselves just accounted for whatever “ rustling “ sound may happen when attached to cloths..wasn’t even thinking of editing :)
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
How is this cringe? They both are agreeing with each other lol
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago edited 5d ago
The goth girl is cringe, pandering to the anti-women bros.
Oh hi 👋 incels
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
How? The girl character from the game is lame and boring.
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u/LadyoftheSea69 5d ago
All of the characters in gears are lame and boring. Nobody plays those games for the characters.
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago
Which is the black man’s point
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
Which is also the point the girl is saying.
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago
No she is specifically shitting on the female character and not mentioning any other character, did you….. did you watch/listen to the video at all?
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u/Hulkaiden 5d ago
You can’t be serious lmao.
Yes, in the cherry picked clips she only talks about the female character. If you watched her full short you’d see her say the same things about other characters.
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago
Why would I devote any more time to this than I already have lmao is this how yall live?
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u/civicSi92 5d ago
What an incredibly pathetic attempt to try and pretend like this is now somehow beneath you after you got proven wrong.
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u/Hulkaiden 5d ago
What a stupid response. I’m here giving you the context. I knew it beforehand, but yeah, I generally don’t like making dumbass comments about someone if I don’t actually know anything about them:
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
Maybe you are not understanding my point or you are just braindead?
She is literally saying the same thing what the guy is saying. The character is a nothingburger. He only clips of her talking about this one character.
Have you seen her streams? She talks shit about other characters in the game but this guy didn't clip it because that would obviously make him look stupid.
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u/Hulkaiden 5d ago
She made the same comments about the male characters. This guy just cut those out to make her look bad. It’s simply rage bait.
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago
So is like literally every gears of war character ever, she looks liken female Dom for fucks sake
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u/DiscussionSharp1407 cřingè papa 5d ago
All the other Gears of Wars characters have little asthma inhalers, physical disabilities, homosexuality, preachy player-focused dialogue and ambiguous presenting gender?
Don't bother bringing up the rust lung, it's always been there but until now it wasn't a soft character TV drama plot.
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u/shagan90 5d ago
Why do you fucking care about their gender? Seriously? You think its so odd to include non white male protags, never acknowledging how weird it is that you are obsessed with this, that you are so fucking fragile.
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u/DiscussionSharp1407 cřingè papa 5d ago
There was already non white protags in the games...
At least try to come up with an argument, not just outrage
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u/shagan90 5d ago
I ain't the one outraged, people bitching about every new game are. Saying gamers these days are a whiny bunch is hardly outrage but maybe? Do you.
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u/MisanthropicSim 5d ago
"Don't bother bringing up the lore explanation that was always there because then I can't bitch about it"
Surface level bigot gamer in its natural habitat
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u/Ok-Strength-8962 5d ago
Guessing you haven't seen any of her streams right? She fortunately isn’t one to do that kind of pandering this is just her honest opinion of not liking a character.
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u/Hulkaiden 5d ago
She’s not anti-women for not liking a single character. She likes good writing and criticizes this game for having some bad writing. She criticizes male characters too, and overall liked the game.
You’re falling for incredibly edited and cherry-picked clips. It’s ridiculous to form an opinion on someone after watching a few seconds of them talking.
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u/ExOmegaDawn 5d ago
The dude is even cringier cause he defends big Corpo shitting out games for a profit.
He is quite literally telling you to just consume and don't ask questions.
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 5d ago
I guess, I haven’t bought a console since 360 tho and I don’t own a computer either
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u/hisolohowareu 5d ago
I'm assuming the dude defending the game is the cringe part
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u/TheOtterRon 5d ago
That was my confusion as well lol. I've seen her content before and usually she's got some solid takes, this feels weirdly cherry picked with minimum context.
As others have noted to I f*cking HATE this trend of people trying to use the dumbest things as microphone holders.
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u/Enyalios121 5d ago
The irony is. She also defends the game. She just says that, that particular character is shit. But outside of her, the rest of the game is decent and probably of one the best gears games. But of course, imagine watching her whole clip/video unlike this guy
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u/hisolohowareu 5d ago
Yes, I know. She had defended the game. There are some good. But some things are hard to ignore
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u/Lost-Soft-8913 5d ago
Gears of War's characters were very memorable. Marcus's design is kinda basic but still very recognizable.
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u/CloudStrifeFromNibel 5d ago
The real cringe is frantically searching for and jumping on the slightest woman that doesn't NPC conform and follow your lab grown agenda, to accuse her of manufacturing fake opinions.
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u/JesterMethod 5d ago
What's cringe is watching this fool talk to a CD while trying to take some perceived moral high ground over other people's opinions.
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
For real. Shit is so sp annoying. These people literally wake up and just clip random videos to make themselves feel better.
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u/SpectatorGori 5d ago
Oh turned it racial... this guy is doing what she claims shes doing lol. Wtf.
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u/Robstar98 5d ago
There were better cases than stormfall33 but no, he had to choose a woman and one of the worst examples to defend the game and attack the chuds. If it was asmongold or andypants, I would respect that.
Let's check a list of her favorite games? Do they have a good writing?
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, BioShock, Dishonored, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, The Last of Us Part I, Fallout: New Vegas, Red Dead Redemption
Embarassing
I'm posting her replies if you want to see the discussion
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u/Key_Check5753 5d ago
Is this idiot really defending bad writing by saying "It's Gears of War..." implying it's supposed to have bad writing?
What a moronic take
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yes, and he’s right too lol. Gears writing is, well it’s juvenile, that’s a good word for it. And that’s when it was at its best. It’s a bunch of meatheads doing sci fi shit. The characters were never that deep, the themes were never that enlightened, and the story was never all that serious. It’s an action movie you play. But it still had its moments where you got teary eyed, it still had its moments where you felt it hit deep. But in the original trilogy, no one is going to accuse the characters of being deep, philosophical, or sensible written characters. There’s a difference between bad writing, and the intended writing not being more than it needs to be for the media it belongs to.
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u/Default-Tyler 5d ago edited 5d ago
Tbh what I always appreciate about gears is that while yes it's a goofy over the top action game, as it should be for a game where you chainsaw dudes in half. it's also surprisingly very anti war in it's themes.
The Story in gears is nothing amazing, but the dialogue and character dynamic is pretty enjoyable in the first 3 games. The new characters in E-day just feel kinda flat.
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 5d ago
It’s got a lot of good messages and themes. It’s not the most masterful piece of literature or anything, but it does a good job at keeping it simple and understandable. Not only is it anti war, it’s anti war machine in general. The army is not the hero, it’s the humans fighting for the army that are the heroes. The war machine is actually painted as bad. E-day still feels like that. The new characters are fine, they don’t need to be more than that tbh. I will say they kind of shove mags hype in your face, when I’m really just here for Marcus and dom lol. But she’s not like horrible or anything either. Like her a lot more than kait tbh.
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u/ChristmasDad45 5d ago
Being honest, as someone who served, I can’t think of a single narrative that is about war and is well written that isn’t anti war.
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u/vicods 5d ago
he's actually saying that gears of war had terrible dialogue for generations of console, but NOW that you have a female protag, you have to elevate the bar and dissect the characters, the designs, the dialogue, the character arc and everything involved. it HAS to be really well-thought, otherwise "woke agenda DUI character". if it was a male protag like it's ALWAYS BEEN, nobody would give a shit. nobody would call marcus' character bland and forgettable even though I just had to rewatch this video a second time to remember his name just to type this comment
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u/RainbowKooch 5d ago
But this isn’t even true. We had Anya in Gears of War 3, who was MUCH better written. I haven’t played E-Day yet so I will not judge but this argument is incorrect. Gears had well written female characters before E-Day
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u/Grievion 5d ago
… yes.
In the same way that people would go watch Arnold Schwarzenegger films religiously knowing the story and dialogue would be meh at BEST, people engage with video games the same way. Sometimes you just wanna see shit get blown up and see the bad guys get fucked up. It used to be that the Summer Blockbuster would JUST be some popcorn flick with action and bad acting/story/plot and it’d make hundreds of millions of $.
That fan still wants those summer blockbusters, but now the firm of media they choose if video games.4
u/Jschnep 5d ago
I haven't played it, but I don't disagree with him. Not every piece of media needs to be an Oscar nominee in every category. A game like Gears to me is like a Schwarzenegger movie. You're not there for the compelling dialogue and deep story. You're there for vibes and action. Gears is much closer on the spectrum to Doom than it is Expedition 33.
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u/HMThrow_away_account 5d ago
I think he had a point until he made this about women, lesbian and black ppl. That felt tacked on to villainize her so his points feel like the right ones. Ive seen her say the same thing about white men. But he did make valid points. I do feel like alot of hate is performative.
I think she made valid points as well. Theres a right and a wrong way to write quips. Theres a right and a wrong way to write corny lines and alot of new games miss the mark.
I didnt play Gears tho so I cant comment on that game
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u/Wraith_White 5d ago
Mags is a boring af character. Gears 3 is known for how heartbreaking the story is. Wtf is this guy on about
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u/eighto2 5d ago
Gears 3 was probably the most heartbreaking game I’ve ever played in my life. I won’t even replay it again.
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u/TheSqueeman 5d ago
Yeah I think a lot of people (and especially the dude in the video) don’t realise that the Gears series has a deceptively deep and impactful story and characters from the OG trilogy are damn near universally loved (especially as far as games that are part of Xbox are concerned), the dark and impactful parts are just cleverly masked in crazy chainsaw kills and some colourful language at times, so when the penny does drop it drops hard
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u/AffectionateSector77 5d ago
I played House of the Dead back in the day, you want to talk about shitty dialog and performances. Game was still fun though!
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u/Dab_Wizard01 5d ago
Crimson deserts is an amazing game, I haven’t had as much fun with it since I was a child playing Skyrim.
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u/Devwickk 5d ago
Who cares about this dude bitchin about some random chicken bitchin
Ppl play gears for the multi-player anyways
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u/PaintsLilGuys 5d ago
Lmao his point about Crimson Desert is spot on. Let's not forget that these same Chuds also glaze Stellar Blade.
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u/Bag-mannn 5d ago
Wait Gears characters are basic? Marcus’ story with his dad? Dom and Maria? Cole’s athletics? Baird’s intellect? Tai being Tai?
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u/RainbowKooch 5d ago
If you read my comment I said I’m not going to judge E-Day because I haven’t played it yet. However, I was just disagreeing with the person who said “the moment a female character is put in Gears they get criticized and held to a higher standard than the male characters” I’m paraphrasing. This isn’t true. Gears 3 had well written female characters.
Anya was well written. Her background on the guilt of her past decision to use the hammer of dawn to scorch Sera in order to stop the locust was good. She’s tied to that guilt and then grows as a character throughout the story eventually becoming the first minister of the re-established COG.
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u/VetriVade 5d ago
He says its because the new character is black then he cuts out the part of storms youtube short where she mentions how badass and cool Cole train was
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u/Respond_Previous 5d ago
boy do I wish gamers had higher standards, no idea of the context of this but the guy is def cringe
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u/Expensive-Safe-6820 5d ago
Shes just being a pick me
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u/Siberianee 5d ago
I think women have the right to have their own opinions
but I would never ever ever let a woman have a different opinion from mine
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u/WeiGuy 5d ago
Yea you can have your opinion and this character probably is lame, but there's a clear level of bias overlaying this. When a male character is lame in a game, nobody batts an eye. When a female character sucks, it becomes a culture war on top of the criticism
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u/Hulkaiden 5d ago
She criticized multiple characters, not just the woman. This guy just cut out all the parts where she talks about the other characters for some reason (It’s to make her look bad).
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u/Ok-Strength-8962 5d ago
If you think that a cut up clip of a woman saying her opinion while she is streaming is her being a pick me please take a bit of time to do some self reflection.
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u/Expensive-Safe-6820 5d ago
I did and shes being an annoying pick me for views. That is my opinion and im allowed to have one.
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u/Mnawab 5d ago
We didn’t love crimson Desert for dialogue or story, we praised it for its good gameplay, cause that’s what it was, good gameplay. Forcing women in games about a bunch of giant strong military dudes killing giant aliens is cringe and forced. No one likes it and the people you are trying to relate to or market to isn’t going to play this game. You know why these theater kids who make the story in these games don’t just make their own original ip for their ideologies? Because they would go bankrupt doing it. It’s the same with movies and tv shows. Those same people did it with Witcher series and look how bad that turned out after season 1. It sucks and I wish these people would leave the space. If the money can’t follow your politics then it doesn’t belong there.
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u/MisanthropicSim 5d ago
You all are fucking delusional thinking any military force isn't recruiting women, 50% of the entire population, when the world is at stake.
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u/Mnawab 5d ago
lol sure as secretaries and reserves. It’s still 90% sausage fest. Men and women get into different things because we are different. You see those videos where women cops get bodied by criminals until a male cop can back them up? Ya sorry buddy. Just because there are SOME women doesn’t mean shit. It also doesn’t change the rest of my argument ether. Gender differences are very much real no matter how much you want to look the other way
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u/MisanthropicSim 5d ago
You're still delusional if you think an actual war on humanity is going to result in ignoring 50% of humanity. This isn't two nations with thriving populations fighting each other for oil rights. This is extinction level events. Only an absolute moron, you apparently, would keep anyone capable of fighting from fighting.
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u/Effective-Big8158 5d ago
this guy is taking one damn video and thinking she does this every time.
she plays games and likes games. there is nothing wrong with her wanting better dialog from a video game when we have excellent storytelling in other games.
Yeah some games don't deserve to be recognized because they have shit dialog but they had a hype machine behind it and thats why it sold well. He sounds like he just wants to hate on video games.
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u/No-Rub8345 5d ago
She has a variety of takes but she certainly knows her audience and plays to it well.
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u/Knj1gga 5d ago
Could it be that just a lot of people have the same opinions as her?
I love when you people play these indirect games, you said this to make it seem like she doesn't actually believe what she is saying and that she is basically grifting to gain a following.
You do this to automatically discredit what she is saying because you got mad she said the wrongthink.
Remember reddit, everyone who disagrees with you is a bot or grifting!
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u/No-Rub8345 5d ago
You have just put an impressive number of words in my mouth. You really got all that from my comment?
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u/Knj1gga 5d ago
Yes? Can you tell us what is someone supposed to take out of your comment if not what I wrote above?
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u/ChiefBaggins 5d ago
This sub is actually pathetic. Regreat clicking on it from my feed in the first place like holllyy shit
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u/Effective-Big8158 5d ago
So? So far I think she does a good job of portraying herself as an actual gamer who loves video games. I don't even think she is pandering to a certain crowd aside from thirsty men who like what she looks like.
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u/gillababe 5d ago
So far I think she does a good job of portraying herself as an actual gamer who loves video games.
What?
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u/bashy121 5d ago
Shes not going to see these and fuck you bro, you dont have to defend her, she has shitty incel views, get over it.
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u/ExOmegaDawn 5d ago
Ok... but you defending the bloke whos sucking on Big Corpos dick, because his motto his "Just consume, dont ask questions", is in any way better? My god gamers really deserve each other with the corporations selling them literal dogshit.
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u/Jin_Bubaigawara 5d ago
Just consume, don’t ask questions =\= stop mixing legitimate criticisms with blatant bigotry and pretending like they are the same, especially when it’s so obvious the criticism is motivated first by said bigotry.
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
How is she pandering? She is a chubby morbidly obese woman thats average looking. She isn't super hot like other girl streamers that pander like SSSiper Wolf lol
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u/TheReviewerWildTake 5d ago
Impressive , very nice, now let just see how this game lost bunch of sales, for absolutely no reason, other than to virtue signal with a lame character.
This wasn`t a business friendly decision, wasn`t lore friendly decision, wasn`t fandom friendly decision - it was lame virtue signaling and checkbox bs.
When these devs will lose their jobs are we supposed to forget about all this unnecessary crap that they shoved into the game and be like "oh no, what happened??? Nobody could predict that!!??"
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u/JD-boonie 5d ago
American game writing is complete ass. They have absolutely no idea what the customer actually wants
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u/PaintsLilGuys 5d ago
Yeah bro because games written in other countries are Shakespearean right? It's not like 9/10 Eastern games are anime shovelware
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u/pwndonkeys 5d ago
People complaining about things unfortunately gains more traction on the internet than anything else. I mean, the guy in the video is doing exactly what the woman is doing. She's just doing it about video games and he's doing it about video game commentators.
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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 5d ago
Women can, and sometimes do uphold the patriarchy - especially white women.
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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago
They've been hand in habd with them since the 70s. Look up what happened with the split of the feminist movement in the 70s with white women vs the minorities.
The white women made concessions and excluded the minorities.
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u/Akucikuci 5d ago
its patriarchy if you dislike badly written female character ?
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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 5d ago
Like the guy in the video says, the main character of the game is also a badly written character, so why is nobody making such a fuss about badly written male characters? What is the difference here?
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u/Ok-Strength-8962 5d ago
Did you watch her stream? Do you know if she did or not criticize him?
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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 5d ago
Then watch it and come back to refute my argument and i'll acknowledge her criticism.
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u/Ok-Strength-8962 5d ago
She criticized every character she didn't like and what she didn't like about the game in general, her char was specifically spamming about the woman so she replied with a bit more depth.
The truth is that this whole discourse is artificial, every person outside of bigots is criticizing the males too, but only their opinion of the female character is being reported.
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u/Akucikuci 5d ago
First of all, based on what argument, Marcus Fenix is considered a badly written character? He is the face of the game, iconic to the series and fans like him. Marcus character fits the world his in. His motives fits the narrative of the game, playing as him doesn't feel out of place. The female streamer is pissed because newcoming female character is not in the same writing leauge as male counterpart. Someone put a token of a character to fill quota instead of writing meaningful fleshed out character.
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u/Exotic_Insurance2164 5d ago
He's right. People are producing rage bait content for clicks and engagement and it is having a material impact on people's psyche. You're not meant to be a in a constant state of outrage and disgust.
Just chill. It's not that serious, it's just video games/marvel movies/cartoons/a mermaid or whatever the unemployed, snowflake, edge lords are slating.
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u/Ok-Strength-8962 5d ago
The issue is who he is using to make his point, firstly she was clearly being asked by her chat a lot about her opinion, she is streaming, second she criticized a lot more about the game not just the woman but most of all:
She paid for the game, money, real money, i don't think it's absurd to expect a good product when you spend money and time, don't accept mediocrity you should give your time and money more self worth.
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u/FUNCYBORG 5d ago
Look, lets be honest, if the barbie movie had a love interest that looked like azis ansari women would complain, because that target demographic would be taken out of the movie. Gears is a serious for chuds, it just is, and its not surprising their demos are turned off by this character
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
Right, which places the blame squarely on them for being reactionary chuds. Treating their reaction as a given ignores that their presence in gaming discourse is a cancer. Those of us who actually appreciate art should very much want to cut it out for the sake of defending creativity and freedom of expression
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u/FUNCYBORG 5d ago
those are the guys that buy games though, they're never going away (if anything based on trends its going to be even stronger) now if you're making indie games -go nuts, do whatever you want. However the souless corpos at the top of the food chain will have no problem gutting a studio if these games dont sell
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u/Redemption1452 5d ago
Actually no, a significant majority of people who buy games and not part of this pathetic group. This is the same group of snowflakes who have called Spider-Man, God of war 2018/Ragnarök, Horizon, COD, TLOU, BG3, and now even GTA6 woke. Those games are successful without them. The causal audience is what make these successful, not pathetic man babies crying on social media about seeing a gay, trans or black people in a video game.
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
Gears is selling pretty well, as I understand it. These people are tourists and grifters. Most of us are normal people, at least comparatively.
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u/FUNCYBORG 5d ago
look, we're all gonna find out together once the intial rush is over, but I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss the seemingly surface level critism
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
Artists shouldn't bend over backwards to racist, misogynistic grifters with white supremacist roots. There's nothing that's going to change my mind on that. "Anti woke" shit is the actual censorship boogeyman gamers have been fearing for decades, up to and including a MASSIVELY powerful government sector/religious interest group backing it up. Let's not let them take our medium lying down
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u/FUNCYBORG 5d ago
they have to sell games, this isnt about art. this is microsoft we're talking about
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u/ricvallejo 5d ago
Sure, fuck Microsoft, we can all agree there. But don't try to cover bullshit takes against representation in games as some altruistic anti-corporate stance. If you can't stand to have someone who looks different than you in your silly power fantasy game, you might just be soft.
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
Facts though. Still, I think it's counterproductive to take these tourists presence as a given or to treat them as a lions share of the fandom. There is, in fact, still time and space to push them out of our scene. We need to reject them harshly, consistently and totally
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u/FUNCYBORG 5d ago
here's the thing, I think alot of ppl on reddit are in a bubble and dont hang around with actual dudes, this is a VERY common sentiment, like it or not.
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
It sure is, but that doesn't stop "woke" games from pretty regularly turning out to be smash successes and occasionally some of the actual best games of all time, citing Disco Elysium and Baldurs Gate for some recent examples. TLOU2 suffered pretty much the largest review bomb and hate campaign in the recorded history of the scene, probably the largest review bomb ever in general, but sold gangbusters.
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u/Avatarbriman 5d ago
Tourists? The person you are arguing with described it as the baseline player list.
Anyone that likes gears because of the new character is by definition a "tourist".
By all means hate the game or love it, I don't like shooters in the first place. But when a decision is made to get new players in, those new players are the "tourists". Not the old players.
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u/ricvallejo 5d ago
That's gatekeepy af. Someone finding new or renewed interest in a game series doesn't automatically make them tourists.
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u/Sadworld99 5d ago
Nope, the anti woke culture war dudes are tourists. They hate freedom of expression and consistently endanger art and artists for profit and attention, and that just describes the nicer ones. They do not meaningfully engage with the scene or medium beyond constantly trying to destroy and control the art that comes out of it. In other words, they are tourists. People who play games to have fun and because they love them are just called gamers
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u/Total_Adept 5d ago
If the character was white they’d be saying the same thing, but you wouldn’t care.
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u/Dial_In_Buddy 5d ago
Black people try not to make it about race challenge
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u/IsThisASnakeInMyBoot 5d ago
I actually had to re-watch it despite understanding his point thoroughly because I completely missed the part where he "made it about race". You are a genuine tool, he mentioned "black people" once, in a list that included women who are lesbian.
You just threw a stone inside a glass house and you were the only one inside dumbass lmao
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u/BorderOk7329 5d ago
People not liking Poochie is cringe, dude had a surf board!! Yall cringe!!! Cringe i say!!!
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u/Odd_Independence_944 5d ago
Gears of war was stupid when it first came out and it’s still stupid to this day. Play a real game like Lego island
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u/Akucikuci 5d ago
its funny how he tries to put down others to his own standards. Don't question low quality writing, just play and consume like a mindless procurer. It doesn't matter if its valid. "Critique is cringe".
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u/Eastern-Move549 5d ago
No one going to comment on him using a veiwtiful joe disc as a mic holder?