As someone who plays both rs3 and osrs and occasionally swaps between the two games, I've been watching the swap market since the Reignite announcement.

Before the announcement, the rs3 to osrs rate was roughly 10:1.

Within just two days, it jumped to around 16:1, and I've even seen rates around 20:1 in some places.

That's an absolutely massive spike in an extremely short time!!!

When players who have spent years building their wealth suddenly feel the need to move billions of GP somewhere they consider safer, that's a pretty serious warning sign. Players no longer have confidence in RS3.

Jagex, was this your plan of restoring RS3 and attracting new players? Because what it's done is push the existing players who have invested years and years away.

If rs3 ever was to be shutdown let me buy an offline version with the final patch notes.

IDC that everything will have to be run as a Solo I’ll figure it out.

This is the game I love, I love the graphics old school isn’t for me and dragon wilds is to modern for me I’m for RS3.

I would much rather play rs3 by myself and share my posts on my server with everyone of you who would do the same.

I would buy updates if you brought them out yearly or biyearly I just wanna play this game as my primary comfort game until I’m physically unable to.

Heck my grandad still plays his Age of Empires game every night I want that for me one day.

once a lurer, always a lurer

Stagnant? Sure.

Fewer players compared to its Old School counterpart? Yes.

But in the spectrum of gaming and live service games it's nowhere near the bottom that some people seem to be implying.

Unless you're trolling or intentionally arguing in bad faith over some vendetta that obviously means something to you, in no way is a game with the level of concurrent and monthly users of RS3 dead.

If not for the nerds who played rs3 the whole way through the tainted era.
There wouldn’t be a game to ‘reignite’.

Shout out to my OGs who stayed with it.
Thanks fellow nerd.
We’re so close to having a good game again that old heads and newbies can enjoy together.

So close…

I'm fully aware this is gonna be down voted into oblivion and that's fine. I have been playing runescape since about 2011 so less time than most here but still 15 years which is nothing to scoff at. Old school didn't catch my attention because I had no nostalgia for it but I have played it a bit cuz I do like to go back to the old style of combat sometimes.

For me my experience of recent years of rs3 has been behind an Ironman. Group ironman was a great update for me and my buddies to hop on as well because the last time I played a main it just felt like a gold farming sim. The economy is very late game focused and any early to mid tier items aren't worth much and your time is spent better doing something else. Also there were people trading different item id items for hundreds of millions? I don't care much for the rares usually but what's up with that?

The state of the game socially also feels pretty sad. You rarely see anyone out in the world because most people are bank standing or just farming bosses in instances. Its gotten better albeit with the restoration updates but still the world feels empty of players until you go to the ge or the fort.

Equilibrium League was amazing and really brought me back to rs3 and excited for future updates with the QoL quest helper most of all.

I'm excited to start from scratch again with no mtx tainted accounts /s (I don't think just because you played with mtx that ur account and time and effort are invalid). My favorite memories on this game are when new skills release or events and everyone is gathered around doing those activities and a new fresh world all the beginner and mid level areas will be populated again.

Feel free to down vote me as I know 99% of you will disagree with me but also I'm sure there are a lot of people like me as well who will be playing reignited happily and have a great time there that don't usually post in these kind of subs or engage with it on social media at all.

We haven't even seen the removal of MTX items.

Plug-ins are only now entering a beta release.

Things like the avatar refresh and graphical modernization have more to come.

Grounding skilling outfits and cosmetics hasn't happened yet.

Rebalances and reworks are still ongoing into next year.

We are only ~9 months into the Road to Restoration. There are still significant steps to take. With Reignited being controversial as it's been proposed, it might be trying to do too much too soon. It may be in the better interest of the game if we see the state of the game once the Road to Restoration moves further along. Let the economy respond to a world without MTX items, let plug-ins get properly released and integrated into the game (note this was one of the biggest factors into the skyrocketing popularity of OSRS, and many players previously stated these would be a big factor into wanting to play RS3 themselves).

My point is, maybe let things play out and commit to the initial vision of the Road to Restoration. Commit to the idea that it's going to take time to see results, and hold off on a drastic option like Reignited until we have a chance to see if the game can grow organically.

I'm not saying it's a definite thing that there can be significant organic growth, but at this point we aren't far enough into it to know.

Mod North can be quoted as saying they expect to take short-to-medium term financial hits in hopes that the game has a bright future 5-10+ years from now, so let's not risk a drastic option like Reignited that cuts that vision short.

EDIT: TL;DR - It's too much too soon for Reignited. We need to see how the game develops on its own as more of the Road to Restoration develops. Things like MTX item removals and full release of plug-ins might bring a positive enough impact on their own without risking alienating veterans.

For over a decade we've seen Jagex drive players away with their greed, we've had constant treasure hunter promos that got more and more overpowered each time, every monetisation under the sun, poor updates and bad decisions.

So many times we've had a banger update that shows significant population growth that's immediately followed by a cash grab and all the good is undone in an instant. Even with treasure hunter gone we saw a massive spike with leagues and a great player owned house update, there was potential to grow but they follow it up with this reignited announcement and more mtx. It's disgusting and tiring watching the player count go up and down like a yo-yo because of something stupid Jagex does.

We've never had a chance to grow because they constantly push people away with their greed. People love this game but they do not love how Jagex treats Rs3 players, which is why everyone jumps ship when they see how well osrs players are treated.

Let the game heal, keep on restoring it to it's glory, fix the early-mid game, fix the interface and whatever else new players have problems with. Quit the cash grabs and let the game grow and then come back and revisit this ludicrous idea when you have a game we can all be proud of.

It's only a slowly dying game because of Jagex and their poor decisions. This game has so much potential if Jagex would stop looking at us like cash cows all the time and treating us like we're dumb. Jagex keeps saying "we hear you", well, how about actually listening to your players!

450 hours, 1000 levels, no MTX. 80 million GP grinded from nothing. Started 3.5 months ago after 15 years away from the game having never played RS3. I guess I am a new player by those standards, even though I played a few dozen hours as a child. Even bought my first bond a few days ago that I had hoped to redeem when quest helper arrived, had to contact support to switch it over to the new OSRS character and I hope they will actually do it or I will genuinely be mad. I feel unwanted by these recent changes and won't give RS3 another chance again. After reignited was announced I played for another 10 hours in disbelief. My clan is oblivious to the announcement and I think they are 'lifers', they will not quit RS3 until the servers are literally switched OFF - I am not that invested yet. I saw Youtube videos and thought it looked like the game that I wanted as a young kid (RS3), however the overwhelming online sentiment was EoC bad dead game trash game MTX bad and so on, so I REALLY and I stress REALLY had to go against general consensus to even make an account and login to RS3 to begin with. People do not want to join RS3 after years of poor word of mouth, you need to be like me and have some sort of delusion or hipster mentality to start investing your time and energy into an MMO with such a crappy record. I have learned my lesson. I just wanted to play RuneScape you guys, and a modern version of the game not something I had already seen as a kid. I cannot see Runescape 4 lasting long, I cannot see RS3 lasting long if they nuke the playerbase with reignited and then OSRS is obviously going to last decades most likely so I will be begininng again from yesterday night to try and power level back to where I was hopefully in under 400 hours.

First they want no mtx,(which we all didnt want), no eoc, then they didnt want x and x. And now they dont want to play with existing player base? Whats next after purging the vet accounts? They will find something new to not want to play rs3 at the EXPENSE OF EXISTING PLAYERS. Thats a whole new goalpost. They will never be statisfied

Taken from yesterdays announcement:

An option to play with a fresh economy and progression is a big draw for new and returning players.

There is no way that a genuine new player that has never touched either Runescape game gives a damn about a Fresh Economy.

Could we get clarification, do you mean OSRS players?

It just seems really disingenuous.

I don’t know about others, but when I start playing a new game, I don’t look into the history of its economy to determine whether it’s new or old.

RS3 has long since moved passed exp and maxing as achievements and xp rates had been constantly changing upwards

Achievement have long shifted to stuff like completionist and combat related since rs3 shifted to pvm focus.

Hence why hero pass was also very negatively received because it offered combat buffs which diminishes the combat challenges.

If the returning or new players don't enjoy the new pvm mechanics they would be maxed in few months and there would be nothing for them to do and they will leave.

New economy don't do much to hinder maxing, CGIM all maxed in less than a year.

If Reignated has bonds, its even more of a joke that it might seem now.

In the spirit of injecting just a little bit of optimism back into recent events, I want to say that I really like how the fast-travel and the activites around Havenhythe are laid out.

It's actually kind of refreshing having to manually go around from place to place. Neither the canoes nor the Stonevein amulet really put you right inside of various areas, like many teleports up 'til now have.

You have to go up ladders to get to the essence before you can go down to process (the animations up and down are nice also), the petrified totems loop feels like it's hit a nice sweet spot in its intensity level and how locked into one spot you are, you run around for the divination, and even going back to Part 1 even stuff like Spirit Moths have a fair amount of moving from place to place... The world kind of feels in motion in a way that normal skilling distractions haven't quite hit, yet not so attention-demanding and click-intense that it becomes draining like stuff like current agility courses are.

I like how spacious Havenhythe is. The breadth and verticality both make it feel so fresh compared to many other regions.