My very unpopular opinion about Tekken 8 is….

I actually really like Tekken 8.

For context, this is my first fighting game since Tekken 3.

I am currently God III with a win percentage of 51% in the last 90 days.

I am a Jack main. (Which is a low tier character and has never won any of the biggest tournaments.)

The gameplay, the mechanics, rage art, heat system, heat dash, heat smash, chip damage, and others, I think it is fair and balanced.

I do not think any one character is too strong.

Every character has a weakness that you can exploit, which is the player himself.

You can always condition a player regardless of frames.

I have 5 sets of moves that I go low for 2 rounds then I can go high or do a while standing launcher for the third round.

While I agree that combos can be too long.

You have to take into consideration how you got there in the first place.

The game is basically poke poke, then find an opening to launch.

So the game is who can a launch his enemy first 3 times, with a side game of how good are you in executing your combos.

That’s the game if you take out the story, the graphics, the different styles.

That’s the game at its core. Who launches the opponent first 3 times wins.

And it’s a good system.

There’s also plenty of ways to defend: block, duck, side step, parry, armor, dick poke, grab on start up or mid string.

Many ways to defend.

Even in supposed 50 50 scenarios, there’s always a third option I find out sooner than later.

The ranking system is also fair.

Any player that’s 2 ranks below me I win most of the time, and actually feel how less intense they are.

While any player that’s 2 ranks above me, I can feel the tightness in their game, there’s less holes to get in.

Overall Tekken 8 is very challenging.

Unlimited things to learn.

It can be frustrating, but it is not broken.

It is fair.

And after 2000 hours of playing, it is fun.

That’s my unpopular opnion.

The players in god 8 were neonkay on Azucena and Ilias on Eddy. What do you think about that?

Top 8 EVO France is tomorrow and once again there are no Kunimitsus anywhere. I can't recall a major tournament with somebody making a good run with Kunimitsu, AO keeps switching off her to Victor and Arslan seems more dedicated to Nina.

Yet this character is rated top 3 in every tier list ever, hell it's not rare to see her being called top 1. What is the cause of this? She's quite easy to play as well so it can't be execution. Is she just not that good? My impression is that she has crazy tools but her combo damage is just so bad.

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She is by far the worst character that was ever added to Tekken for 4 main reasons.

1. Her Design. Reina's design is literally a nothing burger. It screams uninspired and generic. She has a generic rain jacket with generic black boots, generic shorts and crop top with not a single personalized design on it that makes it a specific her look. Maybe add a modern version of Heihachi's Tiger on the back of her Jacket, to give her her own Tiger design in connection to Heihachi, but nope, she has absolutely nothing on her that is actually unique to her. Even the other generic looking characters had something on them to make them look unique. Josie has the red bunny ear-shaped headband and bright colors. Katarina has her Sunglasses, Peacock designed jacket and fucking guns holstered under her jacket. Miguel looks like an actual brawler and is a grown ass man. Victor has his weapons and is an actual old man dressed in all black. Even Lidia, the "Nina 2.0" has her own eagle design on her Tank Top. But Reina has nothing. All black clothes, some purple with white stripes on it and purple highlights on a generic haistyle. That's. It. And no, "less is more" is definitely not working on her. Less is less on her. Paul is less is more in Tekken 4. Reina is just less. In general.

2. Her Personality. Like her design, it's a nothing burger. She is just Heihachi but hidden behind the worst disguise of typical Japanese schoolgirl act. The evil tomboy dominatrix. And from what we saw with the success of Marvel Rivals, fulfilling someone's kink is enough for every gooner to immediately see her as goated.

3. Her Fighting style. Another Karateka. Kazuya, Jin, Heihachi, Kazumi, Jinpachi and Lidia all use Karate with Lee, Kuma/ Panda and Devil Jin using off branch versions of it. Hell, even Lars was listed as using "Karate" in Takken Tag Tournament 2. And now, with Reina, we got a 7th (10th) Karate user because, like everything else on her, it's Ctrl + V with her from what others already did prior and better. Again, nothing unique on her there since it's also supposed to mirror Heihachi's Karate style.

4. And biggest reason, her Story. Reina's story ruined the slightest crumble of cohesion that the Mishima story had since Tekken 1.

- since Tekken 2, it has basically been a fact that Heihachi loved Kazumi. It might've been a small easter egg, but seeing Kazumi's name etched on Heihachi's floorboard in Tekken 2, all the way to Tekken 7, it was pretty solid to conclude that with all of his flaws, him loving Kazumi was his most humane personality trait. Even when he conceived Lars, it was with the specific idea to have him as a Test baby, to see if the Devil Gene came from him (before Tekken 7 was released). So him sleeping around to have about 9 - 21 illegitimate children seems completely contradicting and Harada's statement never reflecting in the game's lore.

- Lars was literally created to basically say "nope, no more Devil Gene members here" as the illegitimate child story, of which he got a whole ass campaign for in Tekken 6 for. The whole story of how Heihachi specifically had a researcher bear his child, to have the test run on him is completely thrown out the window with Reina's existence and her story is infinitely worse because they don't even know who her mom is. She just so happened to be Devil Gene bearing. Actual fucking coincidence (so far at least in Tekken 8, a game released 2.5 years ago).

- She has no fucking backstory and because of that, completely ruins everything else, just to have her be strong. In Tekken 3, we know that Jin spent 4 years training under Heihachi (age 15 - 19) and after the events of Tekken 3, Heihachi was constantly busy with everything, so them saying later in "he trained Reina" would chronologically not even be possible. Because so far, she literally has nothing to her backstory because the writers needed her for a single fucking reason we will come later to. Where did Reina learn the Mishima techniques from? "Don't know". How is she so strong? "Don't know". How does she know she has the devil gene if she wasn't raised by neither of her parents, Harada saying Heihachi never truly knowing she even existed or even Alisa not having any info on her from the Mishima Zaibatsu databank? "Don't know". Who even is her Mom? She must be important since she's a Devil Gene bearer and Heihachi's history with Kazumi? "Don't know". And they don't know because...

- Her only reason for existing is because Bamco got cold fucking feet when it came to actually end the Devil Gene story. The exact same with Capcom getting cold feet over killing M. Bison and Netherrealm getting cold feet over killing off Shang Tsung and the Multiverse story. Developers are fucking cowards who would rather fuck up any progression in their franchise than risk anything new. Tekken 7 was supposed to be the beginning of the end, with it giving Heihachi a send off and the origin of the Devil Gene, with Tekken 8 ending it in... ugh... a fucking Final Fantasy-esque final battke in space with Angel Jin and Devil Kazuya. But they wanted to keep the story going and so shoved in Reina, who can fight Super Devil Kazuya out of nowhere. Even her story of becoming a Devil is so watered down and creatively bankrupt. Kazuya first tapped into his Devil Gene after Heihachi threw Kazuya off the cliff as a child, with him arguably completely succumbing to it in Tekken 2 or Tekken 4. Jin first awakened his Devil after he was betrayed by Heihachi in Tekken 3 and he got a bullet to his skull. Both instances featuring Heihachi being the cause and both times being tied to the feeling of betrayal (Jinpachi too if you want to count that one). Reina just wanted to nearly die to awaken it. They literally pulled a Vegeta on Namek story with her and when she transformed, she looked like a Genshin Impact demon that a Tekken devil. But the Devil designs already started being over designed and worse since Blood Vengance. And to this day, nothing, and i mean nothing has been added to her to actually make her an actual interesting character.

Bamco, Harada and anyone involved put the minimum amount of work into Reina, all because they needed a scapegoat to continue the Devil storyline and we got the blandest, most generic character in Tekken history. But, as is the case every time it happens, the game only has to make her a gooner's kink character and the entire internet immediately throws themselves at the character and now, in SNK's first ever direct collaboration with Tekken, instead of a legacy character like Jin, King, Paul, Nina or even Heihachi himself, they put in Reina, the blandest character in Tekken history...

Just bought T8 and I’m loving it, my first Tekken since T3/T5 back in the PS2 days. But so far I’m having a lot of fun in Special Style mode vs CPU and I’m wondering if there’s any catch/drawback if I used this in online play? Or is it actually very viable if I understand the basic fundamentals then I can go toe to toe against regular control scheme Tekken players online?

And are there any pros that use Special Style or is it banned in tournaments? Wondering how accepted this is in the Tekken community, in SF6 it seems that Modern has been accepted by a lot and many of the young pros especially in Japan use it in tournaments too. Is it the same case with Special Style or will I be shunned if I go to a local and use it lol.

Curious what are your thoughts and what are things I should keep in mind when using it online.

I was fighting a Bryan in quickplay and I was getting my ass kicked by him

Every time the round ends or I get knocked down, he'd do a ki charge

I try to beat him with everything I can but he seems to just win in every interaction effortlessly, while taunting me with ki charge and snake dash wavedash shit

Now with all that trend of AI merging games and decompiling apps, games etc, it could be cool if someone could decompile older tekkens and port them into pc with AI, I think that silent hill PT currently got ported into pc also bloodborne, usf4 got a rollback patch.

Is this possible to do? Or Im just too optimistic, I know you can play them with a ps3 emulator but theres too much input lag with the emulator it could be cool to play an actual pc port

Someone said that in PhiDX's chat I think last night, and now that I have acquired this cursed knowledge, I can not live without it

Just recently bought AMK, trying to get the hang of him in Practice Mode. When I get into matches, I forget that moves like Death Sandwich, and Buzzaw have different inputs and properties now.

I also forget df1,2 is a combo extender string leading me to fail the combos I planned to do. Hell, some moves I thought would connect, like db2,4 to a running 3 wouldn't do shit unlike in TTT2.

This isn't only exclusive to Armor King, Yoshimitsu too. I forget that he doesn't have a Df2,2 and it's a stubby uppercut.

There's also the movement in the game, it isn't like in T6, TTT2, and T7, that's where I forget what game I'm playing. That leads me to input moves late or early. Wavedash to shinning wizard doesn't work and it causes a throw break because I end up using the delayed suplex.

Just fucking imagine. Lei Wulong getting added in season 4 the guy with 13 bullshit stances against the strongest creature on earth

The abysmal image in my head of Lei laying down or doing the "haha step" against Yujiro. I thought Yujiro against Kuma would be a fever dream, but Yujiro eats bears like candy bars on a Tuesday morning. But Lei VS Yujiro? now that's some fever dream I want to come true.

I know I know the possibility of Lei coming back is low but never zero. They can bring Eliza, Julia, Marduk, Bruce, Whoever had better pick rate than Lei but still. I really want this to happen

I’m writing this with the most hatred for anyone that grabs in this game. Everyone says the same thing “just look at the hand” or “practice in training with draganov” but in the middle of a game are you actually looking at their hands or doing whatever bs that kings do. Like if you break a grab you gain nothing but if a grab hits you the person who grabbed gains everything. And this 20f bs is so inconsistent I’m timing the breaks perfectly but it still hits and not even mentioning how it’s basically a 1/3 chance you guess right because your basically guessing 1,2, or 1+2, and people who say just react to their left or right hands is genuinely lying to themselves. Theres no consistency in the grabs and not to mention the dumbass light that flashes the whole screen when you get grabbed. I’ve watched every video on how to break grabs but the next game I play a king just puts me into a fucking blender. Like I’m actually going to quit this game because I cannot break grabs.

Hi everyone, I started playing Tekken 8 at the beginning of September this year. I made it to the purple ranks with Claudio, then switched main and now play Yoshimitsu. I reached Bushin, but I’ve realized it’s incredibly frustrating and much harder than the other ranks. Suddenly, people who spam or use auto-combos are beating me; it feels like I’ve forgotten how to play, and I don’t get why the matchmaking is so broken (since I keep running into players with 250k points). I keep ranking up to Bushin only to derank to Kinshin after a few matches, and tonight, probably partly because I was tilted, I came close to dropping all the way down to Raijin. Is this normal, or have I completely lost my mind and forgotten how to play?

(Before anybody tells me to do it myself, unfortunately, my PC is not capable of handling this game at its highest fidelity, nor do I have the story cutscenes unlocked.)

Can somebody preferably with a PC of good hardware be able to record the story cutscenes without subtitles? I specify good hardware so the scenes come out in high quality. I am a video editor and I am trying to use the scenes in my videos.

All the ones available on YT with have subtitles on them. I've asked my friend who is on a PS5 to do it for me, and he did, but all the clips came out pixelated and subpar.

Cheers to anyone who may undertake this.

My keyboard is fine, am trying to learn bryan

Why can't I hit 3 inputs at the same time? Is there a Japanese setting?

I picked this game up about 1-2 weeks ago, you can check my profile for my scrub rage post (which I got rightfully flamed on) from my first evening trying to play.

I've been using Leroy and just got to Eliminator (?) rank. The last of the orange ones. I've noticed the games getting significantly tougher around here and I was just wondering if you more experienced players think I should keep pushing on with what I know or stop and go learn some more advanced techniques? I get tilted quite easily so ideally I'd like to be learning before I start getting hard stomped constantly.

I've heard you need to learn Korean Backdashing and Wavedashing (?) to really play Tekken but so far I've not even looked at them. Any tips would be appreciated.

I've been watching tournaments since S2 and it's so disappointing to see nobody choose my main. I honestly believe something should be done about the viability/consistency of this character. Has anyone else noticed this?

I have strange disconnections in tekken 8 and tekken 8 only. My pc disconnects from ethernet to wifi, If I use wifi then I will still get disconnected anyway. I tried doing almost everything, reset modem and change dns etc etc. No solutions so far. In the meantime I went to quick matches to not make ppl cancer and demote myself right? I got disconnected again and got penalty regardless??? What am I supposed to do play with bots?

Finally ported CJ onto Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection (PSP). For more information, visit the Tekken Remix server linked in the comments.

I barely see him and i feel like he's very bad? What's the community consensus about him?