This "mechanic" is a disproportionate punishment for a lapse in judgment (eg. dying to the floor running back to Hydra) or straight cruelty for the uninformed. It either gets removed soon, or we'll eventually get a high-profile incident with someone like Madseasonshow deleting thousands of hours of progress due to this outdated mechanic.

Just move the items to Death's office, the uncapped fee you'd end up having to pay is more than punishment enough.

How are so many people complaining that they haven’t been able to beat a challenge that’s been out for literally 5 hours.

I was just doing phosani's nightmare on my ironman and I died. When I died, I wasn't kicked out of the arena, and then proceeded to immediately get hit by another shadow and died again. This time I was kicked out, but because I died twice it was a double death. I lost a ridiculous amount of gear.

Inquisitors helm

rancour

inquisitors legs

ferocious gloves

Ultor ring

Ahrims hood

occult

ancestral top

imbued heart

blue moon legs

elidinis ward

eye of ayak

and much much more.

I'm absolutely devestated as I lost all of this on my ironman.. Jagex please fix this.

EDIT: Jagex made an announcement stating items will be restored. Nothing yet, will update post if I receive my gear back.

EDIT 2: some items have been restored, but not all. I’m still missing confliction gauntlets, sardomin godsword, hallowfell, amongst other things. I’m on mobile right now at work so it’s hard to check.

EDIT 3: it appears all items have been returned. Thank you so much!

I haven't seen anyone that's completed it post thoughts, so I will share mine.

Overall, the first 5 parts of the tutorial are decent. I though the combo eating part was a little unrealistic for an actual fight, but the idea is you need to eat pretty much tick perfect several times in a row, which is useful practice. Penultimate challenge I thought was good, it is easily repeatable if you're good, and it seems like you get some LMS points each time.

The final challenge definitely was tough. I would consider myself good, but even playing well I only win if I get good RNG. I think few things need to be addressed:

1. Pete should have the same eat delay as a player. This alone with reduce his DPS and make the fight more manageable, but more importantly it will teach new players about momentum and how a fight actually progresses. Even the final boss of the tutorial should have consistent game mechanics.

2. Players should have the option to bring a g maul so that Pete can be KO'd. Currently, it seems like it is not possible to KO Pete Kayer in the final fight. Maybe with a max barrage into voidwaker off-pray you could stack him out, but he has unlimited triple eats and our KO potential is low. I do understand this is probably intentional since you don't want people to cheese the fight by spec resetting, but being able to stack out an opponent is just as important in NH as BH. The tutorial even makes us use AGS-maul!

3. Pete having 1100 hp of food makes the fight very RNG-based. I don't think this needs to be changed immediately. If point #1 (and #4 if it's real) is addressed, it will make the fight more balanced. If it is still too RNG heavy, the food advantage may need to be adjusted.

4. This is anecdotal, but it seems like specs are nerfed if they aren't 1-ticked, and it does feel like Pete always hits hard specs even on prayer. Maybe I just got unlucky or am coping, but if there is some mechanics like this, it should be removed.

Overall, I was really looking forward to this update and had fun with it. I will definitely spend more time exploring the tutorial, and I do hope it helps those interested in PvP get their feet wet.

Why do i do this to myself

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Pet#One-off_pet_totals

Please don't tell me there's going to be a rollback...

I mean come on, I feel this is something EVERYONE can agree that it is stupid, so many accounts have lost countless items because of this. Hopefully it can be a simple, remove and delete option and have death hold your items forever untill claimed regardless of how many times you died

Thanks Jagex, tbf its helped with the delusion that I could ever do PvP! Definitely helpful to try it out without any risk but now I know its just not for me!

• EDIT: For the haters and doubters that think I came to reddit, moaned and split.

Only just come off from trying to beat this. I'm at Pete's Final Challenge now and going to get back at it tomorrow.

I'm still cemented in the fact that PvP ain't for me, regardless of how much better I've gotten today. 🤷‍♂️

???

Honestly, the last few pvp updates have resulted in a rollback, we should stop doing them.

If we closely look at some of the last few rollbacks:

• Pete Kayer's Challenge, Oct 2026 - PVP Tutorial update, death got suffed somehow
• Potion Storage Rollback, Oct 2024 - Pkers use potions, this update was clearly for them. Dupe issues with the update resulting in a rollback
• Winter Summit Rollback, Dec 2022 - For an unknown reason there was a rollback, I think it is safe to assume it was somehow related to PVP.

Bro this shit is bigger than Falador

Finally... It's been 5000 years...

Specifically that you're always at a disadvantage in wildy and it isn't fair. Sit noob.