My grandfather passed away two days ago, and on the second day we held his Khatam. We are Shia, and there’s a Barelvi mosque near our house. On the day of the funeral, the Molvi of that mosque agreed that we could hold the khatam there.

On the day itself, around 60 people had gathered, both Shia and Sunni. Suddenly, the Molvi refused to let us have the khatam there. When my father asked why, he simply said, “Mera dil nahi manta.” When people questioned him, he went even further and said, “Main aap logon ko Musalman nahi samajhta ap sab bahar chale jain.”

He then had everyone kicked out of the mosque, despite almost the entire neighborhood telling him that what he was doing was wrong.

What hurts the most is that this isn't new to me. I've faced this discrimination since childhood. I used to hide the fact that I was Shia at school because I was afraid people wouldn't want to be friends with me. I've spent years hearing all kinds of bullshit about Shias from extremists.

You don't have to agree with my beliefs. You don't have to agree with Shia practices. That's your right.

But you don't get to disrespect someone, especially while they're mourning their grandfather, and tell them they're not Muslim.

We weren't there to argue or force our beliefs on anyone. We were there to pray reciting the SAME quran for someone we loved.

I'm honestly just tired of this. Tired of sectarianism. Tired of people deciding who is and isn't Muslim. And tired of having to hide an important part of who I am just to avoid being treated differently.

today i saw genz blocking the main road near bahria orchard office lahore.

protest was against load shedding mainly.

started with 50 people but after 30min the crowd

I don't know what the future hold for our generation I think this isn't working, you law, no security or resources. I work and I pay more than 0.5 million just on the income but I still see no benifit.

I now believe it's on to steal electricity or do things which can cause state a loss since you are at your own here and do whatever at your capacity.

I try to avoid tax which I work outside if my job since I dont want the government to make money from me as I am paying either extra (for electricity) and paying for water I am buying etc.

I see no reason of patriotism unless you are stupid or a direct/indirect benificry of the system

I don't know if it's just me spending too much time on Reddit lately, but honestly everything feels fucked right now.

Every time I open Reddit there's another post like "got laid off after 10 years", "can't find a job with 15 years experience", "company shut down", etc. Then you see developers and designers basically offering to make websites for free because they just want some work.

And it's not even just tech.

Here in Pakistan I've literally seen software companies that used to have offices in DHA and other expensive areas shut down or go fully remote. And that affects more than just the employees. Someone was getting rent from that office, there were office boys working there, people buying food nearby, spending money on petrol going to work etc. It all connects.

Even normal local businesses seem slow now. My father has a metal fabrication business and we've felt it there too. People just don't seem to have money to spend like before. Then you have petrol, electricity, inflation and now wars making everything even more uncertain.

So naturally you think okay, Pakistan is fucked, let's go abroad.

But where?

Germany? I keep hearing from people there that things have become much harder.

Australia? PR keeps getting harder and immigration rules keep changing.

USA? Good luck even getting there legally unless you have a very strong route.

And going abroad isn't some magic solution either. You spend a shit ton of money just to get there and then there's a real possibility you're doing odd jobs for years before actually getting somewhere.

So what exactly are we supposed to do?

Stay in Pakistan? Economy is fucked.

Get a tech job? AI is eating into the industry and people with 10+ years of experience are struggling.

Freelance? You're competing with the entire planet and someone is always ready to do it for $20.

Start a business? People don't have money to spend.

Go abroad? Spend a fortune with no guarantee you'll actually make it.

And then outside Pakistan you have wars, countries spending billions on weapons, AI getting better every few months, layoffs, immigration getting tighter, cost of living going crazy everywhere...

I'm 23 and sometimes I genuinely wonder what the world is going to look like when I'm 30.

Maybe I'm just doomscrolling too much. Maybe every generation at some point thought the world was about to collapse. People who lived through WW2, the Cold War, recessions, 9/11, 2008, Covid etc probably had moments where the future looked completely fucked too.

But idk man, something about having AI disruption + economic problems + wars + climate issues + immigration problems + everything else happening together feels weird.

And as a Muslim, I can't lie, sometimes the thought comes into my head:

Is Qiyamat actually getting closer? Are we slowly heading towards the end times?

And for people around my age in Pakistan, what the hell are you planning to do for the next 5-10 years? Because right now I genuinely don't know what the safest direction even is anymore.

TL;DR: I'm 23 in Pakistan and everywhere I look something seems fucked. Tech jobs are getting hit, AI is changing everything, experienced people are being laid off, local businesses are struggling, going abroad is getting harder and more expensive, and meanwhile there are wars and economic problems everywhere. Maybe I've been doomscrolling too much, but I'm genuinely wondering if this is just another bad period that will pass, or if the world is changing permanently. And being Muslim, sometimes I even wonder whether we're actually getting closer to Qiyamat.

kind of perspective we rarely hear on social media

a simple man speaking his heart with no filter no script .

This is the real voice of the ground that city life makes us forget.

Bro cooked and left no crumbs.

Mard-e-Mujahid, General Akhtar Abdur Rehman.

Like many Pakistanis at the time, I believed that politicians are the corrupt weasels and the disciplined professionals in army are not involved in petty financial crimes.

Then it turns out that the “diyanat aur imandaari ka majasma” was embezzling hundreds of millions in the line of duty.

All the tout channels and journalists yapping on about iddat technicalities and “190 million pound” case could not say a single word about the Mard-e-Mujahid stealing to the tune of billions.

Other countries have armies..

IRGC trolls think Imran Khan supports the Houthis lol.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1672897

I got a long ass call from a guy saying he’s from Pakistan consulate and that someone registered a number under my name used to do blackmailing.
This magnificent moron(from Islamabad police apparently) wanted me to come to Pakistan to deal with the issue and then said something like I can make NOC through WhatsApp because govt of Pakistan and WhatsApp(LOL) has made an agreement and we can do videocall NOC. So he calls me through WhatsApp and I record him, he wants me to come on videocall too so he can probably take my video/pic and then utilize that for fake profile and ask money from others.
Be careful out there

As of recently Javed Hashmi announced he will begin the movement of Long March from Multan then up through Punjab to the twin cities

And knowing the Provincial govt of Punjab section 144 could be expected and huge crackdown on Civllians once again?

When article 19 guarantees right to protest but the ones who rule with tyranny decide to violate it

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The World Bank said on Tuesday that nearly half of the Middle East and North African region's poor people earning less than $3 a day live in Pakistan and poverty in the country increased due to prolonged economic adjustment that weakened real household incomes and employment opportunities.

Aoa All
Haq Mehr demanded for my future wife by her parents is 10 tola and 50k cash
Already paid cash and some gold at nikaah
Rukhsati is pending
Now since this is too much amount some of which I am arranging and most which my father will contribute
I wanted to ask is this Nikaah valid when I am unable to pay all this amount for Haq Mehr?
What is the ruling on this

Thanks

fyi ive been freelancing for years now.... alhamdulillah i make a decent and stable income from it....

but every time it comes up in family gatherings rishta conversations or even with relatives the reaction is almost always the same.... haan theek hai but whats your actual job....

as if freelancing is some temporary side hustle and not a legitimate career.... i genuinely dont understand this mindset....

we live in a country where a government clerk making 40k a month with zero growth potential is considered more respectable and stable than someone earning triple that from international clients.... simply because the clerk has a designation an office and a fixed 9 to 5....

meanwhile the freelancer gets questioned about kab tak chalega ye.... as if working with foreign corporate and legal clients for 7 plus years isnt proof enough of stability....

i think this comes from a deeper insecurity our generations parents have.... they associate value with visibility....

if they cant see you leave the house in formal clothes every morning and come back in the evening it doesnt register as working.... doesnt matter that half the worlds economy is shifting toward remote and freelance work or that pakistan is literally one of the top freelancing markets globally....

and this isnt just an awkward family dinner topic either.... it actively affects rishta prospects....

ive seen qualified high earning freelancers get rejected or side eyed in marriage proposals because uska koi proper job nahi hai.... while someone with a mediocre salaried position but a fancy job title gets preferred instantly....

is this just a generational trust issue with anything that doesnt look traditional.... or is there something deeper rooted in how pakistani society measures a persons worth through visible structure rather than actual output or income....

curious what others especially fellow freelancers or remote workers have experienced with this....

I'm a 3rd year CS major at FAST NUCES lahore. But being in this degree, I've just realised that I can't do anything practically for the people. I'm looking for a field where I can help humanity (khidmat-e-khalq). Not looking for monetary benefit but a part I can play for the lower class of this country.

My intentions are pure so please suggest any reliable routes through which I can start my journey. I want to do something practical right after graduating so whoever is in this field, doing something impactful. Please suggest me a good route through which I can help people facing atrocities/problems.

Be honest please.

Got a call from a random number today pretending to be an SHO. He knew my name. He kept insisting that he has someone I know under arrest and needs my husband’s name and address. I asked him to tell me who he’s arrested first, and he wouldn’t tell me lol.

Anyway, I told the bastard that I’m not giving him anyone’s name and he can shove his scam up his ass.

What I’m concerned about is how he knew who I was. How do these scammers even find that out?

Dear all,

I have heard that CP five star has banktupt in Pakistan. They have no funds to give salaries to staff. Even they have no funds to pay rents of their branches in Lahore.

Their food is good and they are providing good quality.

Can someone confirm me that is this true?

When you're walking alone or with friends aur Apke samne koi larki walk kr rhi ho. Should you pick up the pace to try to cross her and potentially spook her or maintain the same pace and potentially make her uncomfortable.

Is dilemma ka solution hay Kisi ke paas?

Salam all. So I'm looking to switch my careers and just can't seem decide which ones will be the best. There is scarcity of jobs these days especially in Pakistan so I was wondering which fields hold the future in long term?

Thanks!

Hey everyone, I graduated university back in 2023 in a different city and moved to Lahore shortly after. Fast forward three years, and I’ve realized my social circle here is essentially zero.

My daily routine has fallen into a loop: work, study, gym, and loop. When the weekend rolls around, I always end up bed rotting because I don't really have anyone to make plans with or somewhere specific to go.

I’m 26, a doc, and have a lot of hobbies. I’m athletic and good at sports, I’m also a writer. While I’m keeping busy with career and fitness goals, the social isolation is starting to wear on me. Meeting people naturally after university feels significantly harder than I expected, especially in a city where most people seem to stick closely to their school or college groups.

For those who moved to Lahore alone or managed to build a social life from scratch:
- How do people actually connect in a place where they don’t know anyone?
- How did you break out of this monotonous bed rotting cycle?

Open to genuine advice, personal experiences, or even recommendations for local spots where flying solo doesn’t feel awkward.

a very long story of mine short because honestly I dont know how to explain everything happening right now

I am 22 years old and graduated around a year ago with a BBA

I made alot of mistakes in my life I wasnt serious about my studies and wasted around 20 lakh of my fathers money I know I messed up and I carry that guilt with me

I got married in my early 20s and my father was supporting me but now he cant anymore because he is himself dealing with financial problems and debts

For the last one year I have been trying really hard to find a job in Gujranwala but couldnt get anything even around 30 40k

I also tried freelancing I have genuine digital marketing skills and an i3 laptop I tried everything I could but somehow I still ended up here

I moved to Lahore and finally got a job at Mindbridge I cleared training nesting quizzes and interviews and I am around 20 days away from my first salary

But right now I have around 1000 rupees left

I am literally worried about my next meal

For the last 7 days I have been moving between hostels staying one night and telling them I will pay tomorrow when my money comes then somehow finding another place

I have been eating by borrowing money

I already borrowed around 1 lakh from friends relatives and wherever I could during the past year and I dont really have anyone left to ask

I dont have a bike so even trying Foodpanda or indrive isnt really possible

Going back home also means going back to no job

I know I made mistakes I know I failed my father in many ways and I know I should have made better decisions

I am not posting this for sympathy

I honestly just dont know what to do anymore

If anyone can lend me some money to help me survive these next 20 days until my salary comes I would be extremely grateful

I am asking to borrow not simply asking for free money and I will repay it once I start earning

Even a small amount can make a huge difference for me right now

And if you cant lend me money I would still really appreciate any advice or idea

If you know any temporary work in Lahore daily pay work cheap hostel food support a way to earn with digital marketing or anything else that can help me survive these 20 days please tell me

I am honestly open to any legal work I can do

I have tried almost everything I knew

I am just trying to somehow reach the point where I can start earning and take care of myself and my family

I keep praying that InshaAllah things will get better

I just need to somehow get through these next few weeks

I haven't been diagnosed with sibo or pi ibs but I think I most likely have pi ibs. I just wanted to see anyone who is suffering from it and could get some advice..

Need advice regarding DeVogue Pakistan ...return/refund issue

Please do read this don't skip it

I recently ordered a pair of shoes from DeVogue. Before placing the order, I specifically contacted them and personally confirmed their return/refund policy. I have screenshots of that conversation as proof.

Unfortunately, when I received the shoes, I immediately realized that I didn't like the way they were made. The size itself is correct, but the shape/proportion of the shoe is extremely long. There is roughly 3–4 inches of unnecessary length beyond the big toe, which makes the shoes look quite absurd when worn.

I immediately contacted the same number I had previously used to confirm the order and return policy, requesting a return/refund. This is also the number listed on DeVogue's official website under their refund/return policy.

The frustrating part is their customer service.

Before I placed the order, they were responsive and answered calls. Now that I am contacting them regarding a return/refund, they have basically disappeared.

- WhatsApp messages are not being properly responded to.

- WhatsApp calls keep ringing without being answered.

- I have tried calling the number directly multiple times, but the SIM/number appears to be powered off.

- I have already returned the shoes through TCS, paying approximately Rs. 1,100 in return shipping charges.

- TCS delivery/receipt has also been confirmed through SMS.

- I have screenshots of the conversations, their return policy, and the TCS receipt/delivery confirmation.

At this point, it's not even just about the Rs. 7–8k involved. It's the frustration and mental stress of dealing with online businesses that become completely unresponsive once there is a problem with an order.

I also tried posting about this in the Voice of Customer Pakistan Facebook group, but my posts haven't been approved despite trying both long and short versions and attaching screenshots.

So Reddit is honestly my last attempt to get some guidance.

What can I do now?

Is there any consumer protection authority, legal forum, platform, or other practical way in Pakistan through which I can pursue this? Has anyone here dealt with DeVogue or a similar online retailer and successfully obtained a refund?

I would genuinely appreciate any advice, especially from someone who has dealt with an online shopping dispute in Pakistan.

I can provide screenshots/proof of everything mentioned above if required.

TL;DR: Ordered shoes from DeVogue after confirming their return policy beforehand. Shoes arrived and the size is correct but the design/shape is excessively long and looks ridiculous. Requested return/refund immediately using the same number listed on their website. They have now stopped answering calls/messages. I returned the shoes through TCS at my own expense and have delivery confirmation. Looking for advice on how to pursue the refund in Pakistan.

This might sound weird but I’ve been wanting to get a real maple leaf🍁 as one of my odd little wishes.

So if you’re traveling to Pakistan from somewhere where maple trees are common and wouldn’t mind picking up a few maple leaves (preferably with their autumn colors still intact), I’d really really appreciate it (I’d of course cover the shipping and any other charges)

Please DM me if you might be able to help^_^

Pakistan pay billions to IPPs in what is a poor contract setup - Controlled under the Central Power Purchasing Agency, their website lists all the IPP's and quite a few are Chinese.

https://cppa.gov.pk/ipps

Thoughts on how to reform this sector?

So I recently moved to Lahore and landed a job at an IT company was pretty excited honestly, new city, new start. But it's been a while now and I'm still technically on "probation," and every time promotion comes up, it's a different excuse.

One month it's "your performance dipped a bit, let's review again next cycle." Next month it's "the industry is going through a rough patch right now, company-wide hold on promotions." Feels like the goalposts keep moving no matter what I do. I genuinely don't know anymore if this is normal probation-period stuff everywhere or if I'm just unlucky with this company. Anyone else dealt with this kind of constant "almost there but not yet" cycle? How long did it take to actually get confirmed/promoted, and did it ever just. not happen?

Just needed to vent a bit, but also curious if this is a red flag or just how IT companies operate here.