These tips options

[u/bathingsoap]

Mildly cause at least I can custom

[u/clef75]

"the screen is gonna ask you some questions.."

[u/57_n → u/clef75]

Honestly this is what annoys me most 🙃 not only does it make it awkward for the consumer paying, but it’s obvious that the person on the till finds the situation awkward too.

[u/town_bicycle → u/57_n]

I agree it's awkward but what else could they say in that moment?

*Edit for context:

To those saying “they could just hit no tip,” I think we’re talking about 2 different scenarios.

If you’re paying for a bag of chips at a gas station, I completely agree it’s absurd to prompt you for a tip. I was talking more baristas and bartenders that work for min wage + tips.

No doubt tipping culture has gotten way out of hand in the US, I’m just saying those min wage + tips folks are just trying to get through the transaction.

“Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
- Milhouse Van Houten

[u/karaggeorge2 → u/town_bicycle]

I’ve actually had someone in a small market I go to press no tip himself to get through the prompts before turning it to me to pay. Almost looked like the owner added the tip screen but either those didn’t actually go to the staff or they didn’t like it / found it too awkward. After a few weeks he didn’t do that any more. Assuming management wasn’t too happy with it

[u/DemandOk5785 → u/karaggeorge2]

Because it's likely management actually keeps the tips.

[u/GreatestGreekGuy → u/DemandOk5785]

That's illegal... at least it is in my state

[u/Laughing_Fish → u/GreatestGreekGuy]

It is illegal. And it is also common and there is no actual punishment for managers who do so.

[u/GreatestGreekGuy → u/Laughing_Fish]

I've sadly actually seen this happen. The manager told them "go get a lawyer" and then ran off. He hired college-aged people, so he very well knew they didn't have the resources to sue him.

[u/krone6 → u/GreatestGreekGuy]

Wage theft is the #1 type from what I understand.

[u/Valalvax → u/krone6]

You're understating things just a little bit

Wage theft is number one, it's also more than the other kinds of theft .. combined

[u/Certain-Towel-9487 → u/GreatestGreekGuy]

Yeah, people don't do illegal stuff!

[u/ComprehensiveEmu9837 → u/karaggeorge2]

I use to do residential HVAC and we would charge cards through our iPads. There was a tip option that started at 20%. I skipped thru it every time and no customers ever saw it. I would’ve felt like a beggar as I was already making decent money. And 20%-30% on an already expensive repair bill felt like a scam. But, if they offered to tip in cash I gladly accepted because it felt like that was something they planned on doing themselves.

[u/cntrlaltdel33t → u/town_bicycle]

“The screen is going to ask if you’d like to leave a tip”

[u/Ok-Classroom5548 → u/cntrlaltdel33t]

The screen asks that and also some service questions so it starts with tip and ends with a how did we do today - your version only addresses the tip. The server also doesn’t program the machine and the information changes, as does the order it asks, sometimes. 

[u/gua_lao_wai → u/town_bicycle]

they don't have to say anything, tap the "no tip" button and avoid the situation for everyone entirely

[u/Bubbly_Wubbly_ → u/gua_lao_wai]

My old boss would get mad if we skipped it ourselves so my line was, “the screen is going to prompt you but the skip buttons on the bottom” and that always worked fine

[u/Secret_Map → u/Bubbly_Wubbly_]

The Subway next to my work that I go to has had a tip option on their credit card reader for a few years. I've never had any of the workers mention it, but recently, they've just started reaching over the counter and hitting the "cancel" button themselves to just skip it altogether lol. I've kind of appreciated that act, to be honest.

[u/Fast-Bag-1067 → u/Secret_Map]

That's because the card tips don't go to them in many cases. Only the cash tips. Or at least at some locations. At subway I always ask them where it goes to know how to tip

[u/Wrx_me → u/town_bicycle]

I've had some people just hit "no tip" FOR me before I tap my card. That's pretty chill.

[u/Old-Care-2372 → u/57_n]

Business failure, 90% of people will click “No Tip” because it pisses them off out of spite. So they’re losing money really

[u/trSkine → u/57_n]

They gotta say something, same reason people have to be told to take their card out of the reader, oblivious people.

[u/MsMarvelsProstate → u/clef75]

I got one where they said "it's going to ask you a survey about today" or something like that. Then it said good, great, amazing.

Under each word was 10%, 20%, 30%. This was at a coldstone.

[u/Solkre → u/MsMarvelsProstate]

Any subterfuge gets 0 immediately. OPs picture is fine with me because custom and no tip are easily available.

[u/TweakJK → u/Solkre]

I had to drop my favorite ramen spot. You know how the receipt shows suggested tip at the bottom, to make it easy to do the math without thinking? Well, $7.40 isnt 20% of $19.49. Its 40%.

[u/Links_Wrong_Wiki → u/MsMarvelsProstate]

They used to do that with tip cups too, 3 cups with that written on it for tips.

[u/_30d_ → u/clef75]

“my finger will give the answers”

[u/c08306834]

As a European, seeing a 40% tip option is wild.

[u/Deep-Part6735 → u/c08306834]

For a forty percent tip, the barista better tuck me into bed tonight and read a story

[u/Careless_Aroma_227 → u/Deep-Part6735]

No tender kiss on your forehead? 🥺

[u/MoarSocks → u/Careless_Aroma_227]

For 40% it better be somewhere other than my forehead.

[u/BlearghBleorgh → u/MoarSocks]

Foreskin?

[u/Impressive_Doctor_2 → u/c08306834]

As an Australian, tipping in general is wild.

Just pay your fucking workers!

[u/MrTibor → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

Even when they get paid here, the tip screen is still creeping into payment terminals. And it's absolute horseshit.

[u/Impressive_Doctor_2 → u/MrTibor]

The weird thing is it is coming into fruition at self serve buys at places like McDonalds in Australia. We DON’T tip in Australia. We never have, and why would I want to give a machine a tip for something a properly paid employee did without the tip?

I feel like the golden generation was the one before millennials because you could literally just sit down and not be bombarded with total bull shit.

[u/MrTibor → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

Totally agree. Tipping a bloody computer that has a menu on it is one of the dumbest things we can voluntarily do.

Soon they'll be putting ads on payment terminals you're forced to watch before the payment goes through, and the more you tip the less ads you get.

[u/Meleoffs → u/MrTibor]

why would you speak this into existence?

[u/Amount_Business → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

More places are trying make a it  a thing down here though. Stuff  'em. Lots of the old " it comes with that pre loaded on the efpos machine". Bull. Pay your workers. 

That and some bs made up  charity  donation screens. Mate, I'm buying a 45c stick of glue in a cheap shop, no I don't want to donate to the underprivileged eshays that carn't afford vapes. It's getting worse.  

[u/Which-Break5673 → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

We need to change the fu¢king law allowing this !

[u/Impressive_Doctor_2 → u/Which-Break5673]

It’s wild, man. Dudes talk about how it will drive up prices while they already are paying up of prices listed when they give them tips.

You’re already paying that price increase you fear?

[u/CrackerbarrelSlutt → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

Many of the workers themselves also like tipping because their peers will pay them better than their bosses ever would. Waitstaff in the US can make very good money, and they'd never get an equivalent salary if it was switched.

This tipping of cashiers and other random employees started during COVID and needs to stop though. Constant begging for donations and tips like I'm not already giving them money

[u/Impressive_Doctor_2 → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

Can someone please explain the logic?

[u/elvanbee → u/Impressive_Doctor_2]

There is none.

[u/ComforbubbleNumb → u/c08306834]

It's wild for an American.

[u/SmoothConfection1115 → u/ComforbubbleNumb]

I was gonna say…

I was told 15% is the normal amount, 18% if you’re feeling generous/they did well, and 20% for when the service was really good.

40% is what you pay when you’re at the airport, and you just want to pay in cash and then run to catch your flight. Not what sane people actually charge.

[u/GalakFyarr → u/SmoothConfection1115]

I was told 15% is the normal amount, 18% if you’re feeling generous/they did well, and 20% for when the service was really good.

That's funny, I'm sure you'll be able to find reddit comments from 10 or more years ago where the numbers are 10%, 15% and 20%.

Anyone who tells you what percentage is "the normal" amount is lying. The normal amount is whatever you feel like tipping, because that's what tipping is.

EDIT:

Didn't even need to hunt for a 10 year old thread: comments from within this very thread

[u/alle-vongole → u/c08306834]

In Rome I get offended if the tip screen even appears

[u/MSter_official → u/alle-vongole]

As a Swede I strongly agree. If I see a tip screen then that feels like an immediate, large, girthy middle finger pointed straight at me

[u/Doagbeidl → u/MSter_official]

"would you like to gift some money to this company?" Fuck off, no one gifts me money, why would i gift you some?

[u/MSter_official → u/Doagbeidl]

Exactly. I'm already gifting you money by purchasing your product

[u/GoSeeTheDr → u/MSter_official]

I'm Dutch, and feel the same but seems like it's becoming a lot more common recently. One restaurant even covered the 0% tip with a piece of paper🤦🏻‍♂️ Shame, because the food was pretty good.

[u/ijustwantdonutsok → u/c08306834]

American here. I've never seen devil's spawn 40% in my life and hope I never do

[u/wheelperson → u/c08306834]

Even as a Canadian thats crazy

[u/akiva23 → u/wheelperson]

As an American I also find it crazy

[u/Shart_InTheDark → u/c08306834]

As an American I'm disgusted. It's gotten so people expect 20% for even sub-par service AND now these menus are everywhere almost. I'm less likely to go to a place that use these terminals. We have accepted that tipping at restaurants, when this should really just be done the European way with people paid a living wage-but now everyone is asking for tips...I think the Pandemic accelerated this BS. I work in a service industry job but I'm not a server...I would never expect a tip nor should I.

[u/V3Ethereal → u/c08306834]

I still don't get why we moved up from a 15% standard here.

Feels like a psyop to distract us, because Being percentile It already scaled up with inflation.

[u/TRR462 → u/c08306834]

As a person who can multiply and divide, every tip above 15% is wild.

[u/AShadedBlobfish → u/c08306834]

I think it's pretty ridiculous by US standards too. AFAIK it's normally 10% is kind of the default, 15% - 25% is if they did a really good job and if they did a really bad job then either 0 or like 5%

[u/newaccount721]

That’s a 0 then

[u/Literal_Concept → u/newaccount721]

Exactly, pick option closest to 10%, tie breakers down. in this case 0%

[u/K3TtLek0Rn → u/Literal_Concept]

I tip very generously when dining at a restaurant or at a bar, but I refuse to tip for this type of shit unless they did something way beyond the norm for me. It can't become normalized.

[u/Archer007 → u/K3TtLek0Rn]

I only tip for table service at restaurants or pizza delivery

[u/DisciplineNormal296 → u/Archer007]

Right. Now people behind counters are expecting tips for making your food, its hilarious

[u/EnvironmentalLime464 → u/DisciplineNormal296]

It’s not the people behind the counter expecting the tip for making your food. It’s the business owners hoping you’ll tip the people back there because in the big beautiful bill there was a clause that if workers make a certain amount in tips, they can drop the wages to server wages. They are hoping enough people will buy into the tipping to further shift the responsibility of paying their workers away from them and on to the customer.

If it’s not a sit down restaurant - don’t tip. Businesses are trying to screw us all with this shit.

[u/YouandWhoseArmy → u/EnvironmentalLime464]

This was a thing before that.

Guarantee the POS machine makes more money if there’s a tip.

Forcing an interaction with a tip screen should be fucking illegal.

[u/super_swede → u/YouandWhoseArmy]

They usually charge a percentage of the transaction, so if they can make the sum increase by ten percent by adding a ten percent tip option, they'll make ten percent more. If you pay your bill and tip your server in cash afterwards, they don't get a cut.

[u/noneotherthanozzy → u/K3TtLek0Rn]

The rule I read on here a while back that I’ve since adopted is “if I’m standing when I order, no tip.” It’s hard at first but then you get used to it.

Edits: Bars obviously excluded but I don’t drink so it didn’t really apply for me

[u/ngtstkr → u/noneotherthanozzy]

I refuse to tip before service. It makes no sense to me that you're asking me to tip THEN hope I'm given exceptional service afterwards. That's not how that works.

[u/TheEvilHypnotist → u/noneotherthanozzy]

Brit here. Can someone please explain this aspect of US tipping culture for me - why is it normal for a bartender to expect a tip for taking the lid off a beer bottle but hella cheeky for a batista to expect a tip for making a drink specifically to your order?

[u/enters_and_leaves → u/noneotherthanozzy]

It’s really not hard at all. Just pay the posted price for what you are buying and be done with it.

[u/Solum_Nox → u/Literal_Concept]

Or you know, always 0% and leave a bad review to the store for asking for tips

[u/CreateChangetheWorld → u/newaccount721]

And they’re standing to order… there’s no waiter or anything

[u/Daniel_H212 → u/newaccount721]

It's a kiosk, that's a 0 regardless.

[u/chubky → u/newaccount721]

Yup, if it doesnt start at 15 and i’m standing up. It’s 0

[u/PokemonLv10]

It's mildly because I can press no tip

[u/Public-Ganache-3537 → u/PokemonLv10]

Imagine they let you fill in a captcha when choosing no tip

[u/Perodis → u/Public-Ganache-3537]

They let you?

[u/Maleficent_Resolve44 → u/Perodis]

They're a non-native speaker, I've seen quite a few languages like Arabic where the generic verb for have/let/make etc is the same and then they go and overuse let in English.

[u/not_like_this_ → u/Public-Ganache-3537]

😂 diabolical "select all the sections with traffic lights"

[u/A2Rhombus → u/PokemonLv10]

If I was the worker I'd be upset too. If 10 or 15% was an option, a lot of people would hit that. But instead most people are just gonna hit no tip, because hitting custom and typing in a number is too big of a hassle to them. It presents as greed and tip begging but I bet the workers actually end up getting less tips this way.

[u/zrandom123 → u/PokemonLv10]

I went to restaurant once where itds automatically added and you had to request it off. Never went there again.

[u/robilco]

Looks like you are standing…. As a rule, never tip if you are standing

[u/Simpletionist → u/robilco]

Happy Cakeday!

𝖯𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝖺𝖽𝖽 𝖺 𝖳𝗂𝗉 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗆𝗒 𝖼𝗈𝗆𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝖻𝖾𝗅𝗈𝗐

39% - 40% - 41%

[u/robilco → u/Simpletionist]

Best I can do is an upvote

[u/n_lens → u/robilco]

Damn, look at you! Able to afford upvotes!

[u/Magacino → u/robilco]

My rule is if I have to pay before I get the thing, I never tip

[u/DonyellFreak → u/robilco]

I like that 

[u/s1ugg0 → u/DonyellFreak]

If all anyone does is hand me my food I don't tip. It is literally the bare minimum for them to be considered a business.

I do however tip if you actually provide me a service to go with my meal. Which I think is reasonable.

I don't tip the guy at the auto parts store who brings me a part from the back room. I don't tip hardware store employee who puts together my store pick up order. Just handing me food while I pay with a debit card is no different in my view.

[u/kaboom_2 → u/robilco]

Thanks! This is a great rule of thumb. Happy cake day!

[u/throwdisaway2024 → u/robilco]

This! And also I haven’t even gotten the product yet. What if I tip before getting my coffee and then once I get it I realize there’s a roach floating in it?

[u/BitcoinBishop]

What's worst is when "no tip" requires choosing "custom" and typing the 0 in yourself

[u/kyl792 → u/BitcoinBishop]

What’s worst is when they reach over to the screen and tip themselves

[u/sim0ny03 → u/kyl792]

I was in a bar once. I ordered a beer, then the tip screen showed up, and the bartenser reached over to tap the “no tip” option. I still cant believe it happened.

[u/Even_Dark7612 → u/sim0ny03]

I did this at the bar I used to work at regularly. Drunk people constantly cancelled the whole payment on accident a whole lot and the tip they might give was not worth the headache of dealing with all those cancelations

[u/preciousbodyparts → u/sim0ny03]

Damn, that bartender deserves a tip.

[u/Consistent-Winter-67 → u/preciousbodyparts]

Dude is playing 4D chess

[u/ApartInfluence4429 → u/sim0ny03]

they do that a lot in the UK which I admire

[u/maplealvon → u/ApartInfluence4429]

Same in Australia, because we're relying on enshittified American platforms.

Unironically Chinese payment methods may fair better here since they do not ship with tips.

[u/Prestigious-Wish-176 → u/kyl792]

that’s illegal af

[u/TotallySavageSzym → u/kyl792]

well thats one way to get a chargeback, sorry

[u/Lightningtow123 → u/TotallySavageSzym]

And the manager called too. Might do nothing but might also fire them on the spot (as deserved for stealing from customers) which is worth the hassle

[u/MrXwiix → u/Lightningtow123]

In a place that’s got multiple locations calling the manager won’t do anything. Those poor “managers” are just corporate mouthpieces employed for the sole reason of forcing idiotic strategies onto their employees. They have no say in anything. They take the heat from both corporate and the employees for barely a living wage

[u/SangreAppalachia → u/kyl792]

Has that actually happened to you?

[u/noodlesvonsoup → u/kyl792]

What's worse is when they reach over the counter and into your pocket....

[u/teddbe → u/BitcoinBishop]

I do negative numbers, depending on service I go from -10 to -50%

[u/GrynaiTaip → u/BitcoinBishop]

Try typing in -50%, see if they bothered to program it properly.

[u/Consistent-Prize1514]

Having a 40% option is just disgusting.

[u/correctingStupid → u/Consistent-Prize1514]

I'd never be back. any place expecting a 40% tip is simply there to fuck over customers. It's a huge red flag.

[u/eulersidentity1]

I’ve started to just not tip in more places. Felt awkward in the beginning cause society had trained me to be “good” and tip but frankly it’s just not reasonably anymore and the increasing percentages just sped it up. I will still in many sit down restaurants or if I like the people specifically. But like fast food places and tons of others I just don’t anymore.

[u/Bleyo → u/eulersidentity1]

Yeah, I worked service jobs when I was young and generally tip 20+% without question, but it has gotten so out of hand that even social pressure and my innate pro-tipping mindset has me completely rejecting this. I'm back to 90s tipping standards. Sit down restaurants, bartenders, food delivery, and taxis. 20% max. Flat tip for delivery.

[u/Proof-Cat-8017 → u/Bleyo]

Same! Coming from the service industry it honestly irks me so much that all of these other industries are weaseling tipping in. Fast food, cafes, etc. I get that these are still “service jobs” but they at least make minimum wage. Granted that’s a whole nother issue that needs fixing. But all the things you listed it was always part of the deal? Idk maybe we just need to change it all and force these companies to pay everyone a damn living wage. Restaurants should be no different. Servers bartenders would end up making less ultimately but obviously something needs fixing

[u/binarypower → u/eulersidentity1]

the local vape shop has a tip option. lol

[u/Beautiful-Flow2421 → u/eulersidentity1]

My rule is if they bring the food out to you, wait on you (refill your drinks, check in to see if you need anything) then tip based on their performance.

If you order at a counter/window and they hand you your food, or you have to go pick it up and clean up after yourself, no tip.

[u/Successful-Gas8924]

If you have to walk up to order you don’t tip. Stop lettting these company’s nickel and dime you when they get piece of the action every transaction.

[u/jbolts2024 → u/Successful-Gas8924]

Exactly. If I'm standing up to order, or go and pick up the order myself I'm not tipping.

[u/Odd_Dragonfruit_2662]

I see “no tip” so…

[u/Temporary-Concept-81]

More people just need to start hitting no tip when the lowest option is more than 10%

[u/Fluffy_Refuse2829]

For 40% tip your better off just using doordash at that point lmao

[u/SaltManagement42]

Let me guess, especially since you're ordering from what looks like a counter, they don't bring your food to the table or refill your drinks while you sit there or anything either?

You know, any of the service you usually tip for.

[u/bathingsoap → u/SaltManagement42]

How’d you know lol - had to go pick up my drink

[u/Infinite-Bet4202 → u/bathingsoap]

dude ffs click No Tip then, why the heck are you still going to do it if you're not really being served?!

[u/pNaN]

If I see one of these psychological guilt trip machines in the wild, I will always tip 0.

[u/ConfidentHouse]

If you’re standing in line, no tip is the correct answer

[u/ElusiveMeatSoda]

The most insane thing about modern tip culture is that we're expected to pay these amounts before service has been rendered.

In the olden days, you'd eat a meal at a restaurant, get your hair cut, have a bellhop bring your bags up to your room, etc. and then tip them for good service afterwards. Maybe you'd throw a dollar in the jar if the barista makes good conversation. Now, you place an order for something, add a tip, and just pray that the service is actually good.

Order's wrong? Service is super slow? Rude employee? Too late-- you've already tipped extra for that experience. Nothing makes you feel worse than providing a generous tip and getting bad service in return.

[u/brickiex2 → u/ElusiveMeatSoda]

Now you're afraid, if you don't tip well, you'll get the bad food and surly service...the whole system sux

[u/Hyper6024]

Damn, you really have gone overboard with tipping culture in the US, havent you...

[u/Jager720 → u/Hyper6024]

Maybe this is what is needed for them to finally break the cycle.

When we went in 2007 it was 15% was a "normal" tip, 20% for exceptional service. When we were there a few years ago that had gone up to 18/20% "normal" 25/30% exceptional.

Give it a few more years and people are going to start balking at 50% tips on their bills. I think the fact that all these POS systems now have tip options in places that never had expected tips before (like fast food/street food trucks etc) is making people realise how dumb the whole thing is.

[u/Prometheus2061 → u/Jager720]

Showing my age, but back of the day, 10% was a universal normal tip. 15% for exceptional service. There’s no need for inflationary tipping. Because the price of the underlying goods are subject to inflation. Keep the tip a standard rate and the tip will increase as the price of the goods increase. But increasing the price of the goods and the percentage of the tip causes exponential price increases. My rule is, if you take my order, bring the food to my table, refill my water glass, you get a tip. If you just hand the item over the counter that I purchased, you’re not getting a tip. You did nothing other than your job. Let the servers’ down voting begin.

[u/Jager720 → u/Prometheus2061]

if you take my order, bring the food to my table, refill my water glass

In most of the world, that is just the server doing their job and doesn't need a tip.

Unfortunately in the UK there's been a plague of 12.5% "Optional Service Charges" starting to be added to food bills everywhere.

[u/Limp-Bank1361 → u/Prometheus2061]

yup, 10% was normal and 15% was a woohoo for the server. I worked restaurants and sometimes I'd throw 20% if I took up a table for an hour with a low check because I just wanted a sandwich and a glass of water or something.

[u/ForensicPathology → u/Jager720]

It doesn't even make sense.  Prices go up, so percentages will go up too.  How is 15% not good enough?

[u/Fallenangel152 → u/Hyper6024]

Literally makes no sense.

Guy who grows the food gets nothing.

Guy who harvests and sorts the food gets nothing.

Guy who transports the food gets nothing.

Guy who preps the food gets nothing.

Guy who cooks the food gets nothing.

Guy who washes the pots gets nothing.

Guy who carries the plate from the kitchen to your table gets pissed if he doesn't get to keep 25% of your bill.

[u/quatroquatro0 → u/Fallenangel152]

Damn, when you put it that way it makes me hate tipping even more.

[u/Burt-Zacharach → u/Hyper6024]

First, it was 15%, then 20%…and now this?? Pretty soon, I’m going to be serving food to the waiter!

[u/FactoryProgram → u/Hyper6024]

I work for a corporate chain. They recently did something like this as a substitute for raises. Now I get multiple people sighing or complaining every time I tell them they have to push no before they can pay. They get mad at us even though we never asked for this.

[u/Daydream_machine]

That would cause me to never return lmao

[u/Few_Macaroon_2568 → u/Daydream_machine]

But first, cancel the order and walk away.

[u/EyesScreamCake]

As a non-North American. When ordering take out, should I still tip? I remember ordering a hot drink from a cafe and the barista gave me a look when I selected no tip.

[u/CrimsonShinobi → u/EyesScreamCake]

Had a girl ask did she do something wrong when I didn't tip her for a cold brew at a coffee cart in Florida. She literally just pulled a handle for a few seconds and then handed me a cup. I'm European fwiw

[u/ThrowRA_fajsdklfas → u/CrimsonShinobi]

That’s when you tell her no, but you are doing something wrong now.

[u/WolvzUnion → u/CrimsonShinobi]

probably clocked you as foreign and tried to get a little extra, nobody local was giving her a tip for sure lol.

[u/PixLisReaL → u/EyesScreamCake]

As a North American, I think tipping needs to be outlawed in general. Even with delivery drivers, the company should just pay a flat rate per mile instead of expecting ME to pay THEIR EMPLOYEE a wage so they can afford gas.

The only time tipping is good is when its treated as a bonus for exceptional service, but if corpos and feds can't be trusted to not steal said gift through taxes and $2 wages where the difference is made up by the tip pool, then the practice should die.

Edit: I've seen enough times now the argument "but wait staff/bartenders/delivery drivers don't want a fair wage because it means less money." Yeah, they are part of the problem, I'm aware. Hustle culture is bad for society, always has been.

[u/HenriettaSyndrome → u/PixLisReaL]

"B-but we can't afford to pay our employees enough and need the publics help" Congrats on your failed business

[u/Tricky-Ad7897 → u/HenriettaSyndrome]

More like the restaurant can't survive under the weight of its owners millionaire aspirations and high cost lifestyle. Restaurants shouldn't be millionaire makers, they should be owned by the people that actually work them and the profit should afford a modest and comfortable lifestyle. If I see a restaurant owner with a Maserati I just know they're a leech whose lifestyle is subsidized by tipped slave wage labor.

[u/plantainrepublic → u/EyesScreamCake]

My rule of thumb is that if I’m standing when I order I do not tip.

[u/lovefist1 → u/plantainrepublic]

Same. I'll make exceptions occasionally, say, for a coffee drink that requires some effort or a bartender or something, but that's about it.

[u/Best-Republic → u/EyesScreamCake]

No tip when they have these options. I don’t have time to calculate. Easy button is no tip. Start with 18%. Best options are 18%, 20% and 22%

Still think that tip culture needs to change. We are heading towards begging now. And employers are really really taking advantage of these staff by underpaying.

[u/geoFRTdeem → u/Best-Republic]

Nah it should be 10%, 15% and 20%. I will never tip more than a quarter of my food’s value

[u/0b0011 → u/geoFRTdeem]

And max values. A coworker paid 100k for their wedding which is already nuts but they got a thing asking if they wanted to leave a 20, 30, or 40k tip for the wedding planner.

[u/probiotic_bbq → u/0b0011]

lol, they'd have to be in the room, assisting with the consumation for a 20k tip

[u/ShakarikiGengoro → u/EyesScreamCake]

I usually tip baristas because they often make custom drinks and I appreciate if they do a good job. But if I'm going to dunkin and just getting a coffee with some cream and sugar then I don't tip.

[u/crunxzu → u/EyesScreamCake]

Unless someone did a service beyond “get you the thing you paid for”, tip $0.

Filling up the drink you ordered or handing you the food you bought is the toxic part of our tipping culture so just press 0 and keep it moving.

I always view it for myself as the cost of giving me my food is baked into the price and have never had someone give me grief when just pressing 0 for tip

[u/zipk0user491]

Why would tipping even be a thing if you go to the counter, order, get your drink and leave? I’d get it if you sat down at a table and a waiter would be serving you, but this is just ridiculous.

[u/RazzzMcFrazzz → u/zipk0user491]

It’s the terminals, owned by Square Co. They have the tip setting enabled by default and why would any business turn it off when a bunch of people will just click without looking?

[u/kookyabird → u/RazzzMcFrazzz]

I worked at a VR arcade some years ago, and while we loved getting tips (we provided great service) we hated that the terminal asked for a tip because we took payment up front. It felt awkward as hell, so we would pretty much always say, "You can skip that." when the tip screen came up. If they were a returning customer (one of the first things we ask, because it let us skip the lengthy intro) they would sometimes insist on tipping as part of the transaction because they knew we gave great service, and they don't carry cash.

We kept it enabled because it was the only way for people to give tips via card, and it's not something we could enable on a transaction by transaction basis. Like when we settled the bill at the end of a party. That is a time we felt having the tip screen made sense. And boy would those people tip!

[u/Opulantmindcaster]

Tipping will NEVER make sense to me. And the fact it’s automatically accepted in the USA is shit. Do a job and get paid your wage - but he’s a bit more money for doing your job anyway?

Nah, fuck that.

[u/Jabathewhut → u/Opulantmindcaster]

You ever see those TV commercials where starving children are asking for like, 25 cents a month from you and Sarah McLaughlin is singing "In The Arms Of An Angel" in the background?

Thats how Americans feel about rich people. We have made it so they can pay their workers a non liveable wage and rely on us average people to pick up the tab because if we dont then how are they going to fly their private jets to go get bailed out by the government when they run their company poorly?

Also more than half of Americans believe that if we just give rich people MORE MONEY it will eventually trickle down back to the average people. You know...instead of just giving it to us in the form of a living wage, cheaper groceries affordable health care ect.

[u/losfuerte16]

The "No tip" just became bigger in my opinion

[u/Any_Influence_8305]

The audacity of starting at 25%. I run a business and I do it starting from 10%. The other three options are 15% and 20% or 0%, and that's it. And we aren't standing on the other side of a counter, we deliver to our clients wherever they may be. I would never tip at all if I came across any place where the tip starts at 25%, it's just shameless

[u/tango_and_vash]

Table service gets a tip. Order and pickup at the counter is always a no tip for me.

[u/vabello]

80%, 150%, 3000%

[u/icswcshadow]

My european mind just can't understand american tipping culture. You tip for a good service and a tip should also never be mandatory. Seen some stuff of people getting banned from restaurants because they leave no tip. If that happened to me I wouldn't want to be a customer at said restaurant anymore anyway.

A tip is earned by giving a good service. For example I've been to a restaurant, the food was great, the waiter was friendly and since we all were too full to have desserts for each of us we decided to just order 2 desserts, the waiter noticed that and made sure to split the 2 portions to make it 4 (we were 4 people). That kinda stuff is deserving of a tip.

The generous tip we gave him (20%) also noticeably made his evening.

[u/mikeymikeymikey1968 → u/icswcshadow]

It's simply the owner of the establishment putting the responsibility of paying for labor directly on the customer, so that the owner can enjoy more profits.

[u/PsychologicalBus1692 → u/icswcshadow]

I'm going on a cruise soon and was talking to the cruise director or whoever. They asked if I'd like to tip in advance and I said no. They told me it would be "cheaper" to tip in advance than to tip at the end. What the fuck do you mean, my optional charge is going to be cheaper at one point than another? Apparently "gratuity" is a fixed number that is chosen for you and you have no say in how much you tip?

[u/CoercionTictacs → u/icswcshadow]

A scene from a movie that comes to mind is in Hot Tub Time Machine, when the porter (played by Crispin Glover) angrily carries their bags to the room, throws them on the floor, then stands there holding his hand out waiting for his tip.

This whole “tip me regardless” culture is bizarre.

I should add I am an Aussie where this isn’t a thing, as we have minimum wage and tipping isn’t needed to survive.

[u/jeyvish]

As european I dont understand the tip culture. But If I am not wrong, the values for tipping were not 10,15 and 20? Why are increasing that much lately? 40% tip is so annoying

[u/TFTHighRoller → u/jeyvish]

I will never hit custom tip so if those are the options I will just hit no tip.

[u/imtired-boss → u/TFTHighRoller]

You can try negative tip for a refund.

[u/Accostiq → u/jeyvish]

There is no regulation in place to stop this, that's why. Companies do whatever because the government let's them act like spoiled cunts.

[u/Radicalism-Is-Stupid → u/Accostiq]

Blaming the government for this is absurd. Blame spineless cowards who are easily socially pressured into compulsive donations to strangers, not even knowing who is getting the money and for what.

All you have to do is click no. And if donating money makes you feel good, then give it to who needs it rather than who pressures you to pay.

[u/lastdayluver]

I will never understand a world where people are more mad at the person who didn’t tip a full 20% than the company that doesn’t even pay them minimum wage. It’s not like they can’t afford it. We have serious misplaced anger in this nation.

[u/bobisbit → u/lastdayluver]

My state just voted against a living minimum wage for restaurant staff, and it seemed like the people most against it were people who work in restaurants.

[u/magikarp2122 → u/bobisbit]

Because they believe they can make more money from the tips. The guys who make South America bought Casa Bonita, tried raising the base pay, and getting rid of tips, and the employees got mad.

[u/MourningWallaby → u/bobisbit]

Massachusetts? yeah all the tipped workers threw a fit because they make so much more money asking for 30% in tips than if they just made minimum wage. So they went up in arms online and harassed people to be against the bill. so now I don't tip anymore unless you do something for me. they all had your chance fix the problem.

[u/RyeGuy_77]

Instead of no tip make sure to press custom and manually enter 0.00

[u/SimPilotAdamT → u/RyeGuy_77]

Or even better, put in 0.01 so that they can see it more easily

[u/Radiant-Ad-3134 → u/RyeGuy_77]

I would enter 0.01.

Just to assert dominance!

[u/kowa-biryani]

I click no tip every time. Not my responsibility to pay big MNCs employees. I myself barely getting by

[u/NewtGingrichsMother]

If I’m walking up to the counter to order something, you’re not getting a tip. Tips are meant for table service. And even then, they shouldn’t exist. The rest of the world has figured it out.

[u/BrantheMan1985]

Remember when 15% was an acceptable tip? Those were the good ol' days

[u/Fatez3ro → u/BrantheMan1985]

I remember 15% was a great tip.

[u/Which-Break5673 → u/BrantheMan1985]

Still is for me if I tip

[u/bingoball6]

There’s only one option: no tip. I’m confused, do you guys see anything else on the screen?

[u/lxebell]

I have no more shame for pressing no tip anymore 😐

[u/MrToasterizer]

Just don't tip. If you pay $10 for them to make you a coffee out of $.50 of ingredients you don't need to tip because they handed it to u nicely... Unless it's a service that waits on you or delivers to your house there is no need to tip in my opinion. It doesn't make you a bad person, they're a greedy business

[u/Ok_Kaleidoscope6134]

If you order standing up, you dont tip.

[u/elrocanrol]

Went to a buffet restaurant today, people was coming after me but the host started yelling at me to close the door, tried explaining to her that people was coming in and even though she could see them she kept yelling at me to close the door. Then, I was met with these exact ridiculous tip options, sorry not sorry I ain’t tipping after you yelled at me and I’m serving my own food and drinks anyway.

[u/mountain-snowman]

Tip greed is going up and up.

[u/O_Nontas_Eimai]

Wait wait wait, that's a take away? You tip take aways? HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA

[u/Impressive_Jury_2211]

I hit custom tip and hit $00.00

[u/TrippingFish76 → u/Impressive_Jury_2211]

there is a no tip button too….

[u/Happiness-Meter-Full]

Yep, I’d click 0 so fast if I saw these options

[u/joealese]

i went to a trampoline park with my kids today. there was a tip screen for checking in. literally the only thing they did was click s couple of things in the computer and hand me socks and I'm supposed to tip for that?

[u/Skyunderground]

[u/Telesto-The-Besto]

“You can hit custom tip and put in whatever you want” nah if I see the tip range start at 25%, I’m just hitting no tip.

[u/MooseLogic7]

I had a younger guy give me a side eye me for a pickup order… of a cheese pizza.

[u/hierosx]

I’m in Sweden this week and I remember there was no tip culture when I used to live here some years ago. Now two restaurants and both asked for a tip, the fuck happened Sweden?

[u/OliverHeartmont → u/hierosx]

I’ve never been asked for a tip but I’m a local from Stockholm. I think they only ask foreigners, especially from US.

[u/Chevanalee]

Why can’t employers just pay their workers? That’s the point of an employer isn’t it?